WTF? Once Again It Defies Logic

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7thangel

7th Angel of Armageddon
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wo..._Gun_Shoot_And_Firearms_Expo_In_Massachusetts

An eight-year-old boy died after he accidentally shot himself in the head with an Uzi submachine gun at a gun fair in the US.

Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Connecticut, pointed the deadly weapon at a pumpkin under the eyes of an instructor and pulled the trigger as his dad reached for a camera.

But the recoil of the automatic weapon was too great and he lost control of the gun.

He was pronounced dead at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield, Massachusetts, on Sunday after the incident at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman's Club.

His father, Charles, said he was just 10 feet behind his son and reaching for his camera when the weapon fired.

Mr Bizlij, the director of emergency medicine at Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford, Connecticut, said he let his son try the Uzi because it was a 'small' weapon with little recoil.

He said: "This accident was truly a mystery to me This is a horrible event, a horrible travesty, and I really don't know why it happened."

Charles Bizilj, the father of eight year old boy who accidentally shot himself in the head with a Uzi

A police investigation is under way and officers are checking weapons permits of the shooting club.

Massachusetts requires gun fans to apply for a license to own firearms, but the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issues different licenses to possess machine guns.

Lt Hipolito Nunez of Westfield police said: "The weapon was loaded and ready to fire. The eight-year-old victim had the Uzi and as he was firing the weapon, the front end of the weapon went up with the backfire and he ended up receiving a round in his head."

An Uzi or AK-47 should never be in the hands of an eight-year-old. It's a weapon of war.

Jerry Belair, a spokesman for Stop Handgun Violence

Jerry Belair, a spokesman for Massachusetts-based Stop Handgun Violence, said: "It's used on a battlefield by trained soldiers.

"It's easy to lose control of a weapon like that ... they are used on a battleground for a very good reason.

"It's to shoot as many times as you possibly can without having to reload at an enemy that's approaching. It's not a toy. It's not something to play with."

The machine gun shoot drew crowds of hundreds, with adverts promising demonstrations and rentals and free handgun lessons with no permits or licenses required.

Children under 16 were admitted free, and both adults and children were offered free .22-caliber pistol and rifle shooting.
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http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/10/27/uzis-for-tots-its-whats-for-christmas-this-year/

Yesterday, an idiot father and and even more brain-dead “instructor” allowed an eight-year-old boy to fire a fully automatic Uzi submachine gun at an event billed as, “all legal and and fun! — No permits or licenses required!!!” Naturally, the gun kicked up, as it is designed to do, flipping toward the child who managed to shoot himself in the head with it. Since kids’ heads aren’t all that heavily armored, we now have a little boy who will never see his ninth birthday.

So, little Christopher Bizilj is dead, dead, dead. His father, Dr. Charles Bizilj, director of emergency medicine (if you can believe it) at a hospital in Stafford Springs, Connecticut, got to watch his son bleed out from a head wound on the floor. And the people who put this little event together have to look at themselves in their mirrors and ask themselves the simple question, “What the FUCK made me think it was a good idea to put a submachine gun in a child’s hands?”
 

mono

the invisible visible
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Battle Points: 20
An Uzi or AK-47 should never be in the hands of an eight-year-old. It's a weapon of war.

so handguns are toys or what?

sorry, ill never get it. im definitely not anti-american and shit, but your firearmslaw is stone age. we're not allowed to have weapons in the EU since decades, and nobody feels less safe or patronized.
 

mono

the invisible visible
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 20
"An Uzi or AK-47 should never be in the hands of an eight-year-old. It's a weapon of war."

Tell that to the African militias and rebel groups that kidnap kids and force them to become child soldiers.
Or to Hamas or Hezbollah.

true, thats sheer madness. a life is not worth anything in certain areas down there
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
bowling for columbine flashbacks...im affraid theyre never gonna get it, guns are not social property, should not be for sale to the public. The event that happened needs no explanation, it proves enough already, poor kid never saw it happening.
 

savage_g

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
do you not think the availibility of arms in the US might be a contributing factor to stuff like this and school shootings happening? Just maybe?
 

savage_g

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
gun death rate per 100 000 population in US is 10.3
for UK, where gun control is very tight it's 0.15 per 100 000.
Seems a pretty direct link.
 

38th||

Beatmaker
ill o.g.
10 per 100,000. I thought it would be worse than that. I'd actually say those are comparatively good odds considering the extreme differences in the laws. Give me the right to bear arms and those odds any day.

If you take away all the weird deaths, like this one, it would probably be closer to 5 per 100,000. Not to sound desensitized, but this whole event has gun accident waiting to happen all over it. If not the kid maybe someone else. But this is negligence, it has nothing to do with owning a gun, in my opinion.

do you not think the availibility of arms in the US might be a contributing factor to stuff like this and school shootings happening? Just maybe?

I don't, cause when you wanna do some dirt it doesn't matter what your weapon of choice is. Guns are just louder and more dramatic. Whats the difference between pulling a sawed off from under your trench coat vs pulling out a machete?
 

mono

the invisible visible
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 20
10 per 100,000. I thought it would be worse than that. I'd actually say those are comparatively good odds considering the extreme differences in the laws.

talking numbers you'd have to subtract very old people, infants, inmates, disabled, outbound and other risk group-excluded from that, which should like quadruple the ratio. to spin the thought out, talking about 40 per 100.000, this would result in a 160 people died from gunshot wound in a midsize city like the one i'm from. somebody shot every second day a year. plus the ones that did survive. *shaking head*
i'm pretty thankful my government prohibits posession of guns. unimaginable if all those airheads out there were allowed to carry a weapon.
oh, and i rarely see people swinging machetes in front of the club
 

38th||

Beatmaker
ill o.g.
oh, and i rarely see people swinging machetes in front of the club

Bingo! That's because we got guns....my point was 1. statistics don't tell the full story and 2. in the absence of a gun, there's always something else.

Where'd you get your stats?

dream already hit the nail on the head though
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
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Battle Points: 83
Lets make it more controversial...Assume the kid and his parents are Catholic.. Does that mean he commited suicide and went to hell?

Im glad we can have guns too, just wish people didnt run around killing each other with them.
I dont know the official stats Im sure we can look em up , but someone is shot or shot to death at LEAST once a day in my city it seems. Thats nothing prolly to bigger cities.
 
Im glad we can have guns too, just wish people didnt run around killing each other with them.
I dont know the official stats Im sure we can look em up , but someone is shot or shot to death at LEAST once a day in my city it seems. Thats nothing prolly to bigger cities.

There are plenty other countries in the world that have armed citizens, but they dont generally go around shooting each other. And then there are some others where they do.
Doesnt Canada have an armed population?

Bingo! That's because we got guns....my point was 1. statistics don't tell the full story and 2. in the absence of a gun, there's always something else.

Where'd you get your stats?

dream already hit the nail on the head though

Here the weapon of choice is the knife, available in any kitchen drawer.

And as Dreampolice said, its a lack of respect of human life.
As well as the right to bear arms being a very major freedom that should never be given up.
Hitler brought in gun control, then enacted the police state.
The right to bear arms in the US constitution is there for a very good reason.
America has forgotten why the constitution was written in the first place.
It wasnt just against the British, it was against the corporations that sought to control the lives of americans.
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
And as Dreampolice said, its a lack of respect of human life.
As well as the right to bear arms being a very major freedom that should never be given up.
Hitler brought in gun control, then enacted the police state.
The right to bear arms in the US constitution is there for a very good reason.
America has forgotten why the constitution was written in the first place.
It wasnt just against the British, it was against the corporations that sought to control the lives of americans.

HAHAHA for some reason Im surprised that you are defending the second amendment.
 

mono

the invisible visible
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 20
the word "people" in the 2nd amandment seems to be very elastic. the very reason was to keep citicens armed, since there was no organized executive, as there is police and military today.
germany prohibited weapons since 1920, after homecomming soldiers started selling their weapons to anyone. using hitlers exploitation of the law as a pro-weapons argument is polemic and bogus.

dont get me wrong, pot being illegal doesnt keep me from smoking it. and if i felt threatened, id get me a gun. but a democracy with seperation of powers should not allow civilians to hold fire arms.

edit: weapons imply a "lack of respect for life" by definition, but thats my personal oppinion
 

thedreampolice

A backwards poet writes inverse.
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Battle Points: 21
I had a good friend movie to America from Mexico. He was telling me horrible things the Mexican government did to its own people. I asked him why don't the people rise up against the corrupt government he answered simply "Because we don't have the right to bear arms" "We cant get enough guns in the country"
 
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