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RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
ill o.g.
The url doesnt work for me but anyways, congrats dacalion, keep it up!
 

Chedda

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 5
word up, dac the beat is nice, i agree with merc about shortaay he aint exactly the illest but dude has got potential and like you say it's more about getting yourself out there. no doubt you've done more than the majority of the illmuzik members.

good luck.
 

HCTarks

Wax Mangler
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
hmm,, congrats dacalion.. good to hear someone's gettin stuff out there.. the beat was good.. the emcee sucked in my opinion.. and i thought the scratches were a little sloppy, except the ones in the beginning. much respect tho.
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
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Battle Points: 259
Yo thanks to all of you with some encouragement, like I said earlier, good negative feedback is helpful and both Shortaay and I appreciate that. As for me alone, cats like Fade, Wings,Freak, Duece, holmz, phil, chedda, Stress and Cold Truth all have very valuable input to me. In one way or another, you all have gained my respect with your music and/or your dedication to what you do. Some people pick up on things like that, some don't. I have picked up on it and you guys are superstars in my book. The others of you(newbies) with encouragement, thanks to you also. Its very good to get some unbiased reviews.

Overall the project was alot of fun, Shortaay had a blast making the video and I'm honored to have produced the music on it. It's definately a step in the right direction for both of us. If I could go back in time, would I change anything? NO, I wouldn't...You know how some cats hear some new ish and say "damn, how did he get on? I'm much doper than that cat!" but while you're sitting at home asking questions, the cat you just saw on MTV or whatever is out there making his next video...feel me?

much luv,
dac

P.S. Keep your head up and NEVER stop bangin! Like it or NOT!
 
E

Equality 7-2521

Guest
Dac your a fucking champion!!! congrats mate!!

i remember when you showed me that beat a while ago. tis a sweeeeeet beat. to be honest i have to agree with the others though.....i felt that the MC didnt do the beat justice. he seems like he has something good to say and all but he just doesnt have enough presence on the mic. but he has potential.

i thoughtthe video clip was aight. a little corny at times but a good job none the less.

mad props to you both and good luck oin the future. i hope this will be the shape of things to come for you guys.

well done!!!!!
 

Shortaay

Member
ill o.g.
hey all! dac, hooked me up to illmusik... what up..
just to cosign what Dac said, thanks to the feedback good or bad,
and as for y'all not feelin me this was a song designed for one purpose and that was as a messgage to my girl, dac just remixed it... I feel your feedback and I have taken note, and i'm ever evolving in my style, do you think that when Biggie first started before he was signed he was a perfect rapper? it takes time and effort to mould a perfect style... but thanks to all anyway
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Shortaay
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
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Battle Points: 25
damn, i got to give a lot of respect for taking that like a man. a lot of dudes would have gotten mad but he ran with it and understood that we werent tryin to hate on him.

i hope to hear some progress soon, shortaay. drop us a line sometime and show us what else you got going.
 

maddogg

A hater since the womb!
ill o.g.
The beat is sweet.Keep makin moves man.
Peace
 
T

The Bastard

Guest
Yeah Congrats To Both Of You ,rhyme And Scratch Over My Beat Now ;)
 

Kevin A

Differentiated Rebel
ill o.g.
Cold Truth said:
a lot of dudes would have gotten mad but he ran with it and understood that we werent tryin to hate on him. QUOTE]



Kevin A said:
That dude rappin sucks and he's takin your track to suckville with him..

Seems like he thought I was hatin on him. Wings I agree with you, yeah I probably shouldn't have use the word sucks, but at the same time I don't recall commenting on the quality of the track.

This totally had to do with the mc. I think this was a situation where the track could not stand on it's own as a good work of art without the help of the mc. The track did nothing for me at all, it was neither good or bad in my opinion. Some music you can listen to, and the artist be booty, but you can surely know that the track is hot. It's like rounding off to the nearest wackness, the track is zero, and he's negative 5, so he takes the value of the whole production into the negative.

I'd rather never make it at doing what I love, than to compromise my art producing garbage mc's and hating my job after awhile. Money does not equal happyness. I believe serious artist set standards for themselves, even if producing for wack mc's is not one of them. You should have Represented on the track hard, you need to make people say, that track is tight. But it all comes back down to working with the talent we got, and all that other music business stuff you talked about. Do you son.



SIgned The Hater :)
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 259
Cold Truth said:
damn, i got to give a lot of respect for taking that like a man. a lot of dudes would have gotten mad but he ran with it and understood that we werent tryin to hate on him.

i hope to hear some progress soon, shortaay. drop us a line sometime and show us what else you got going.

Truth, thanks for your post at the other site. That was a very honorable thing to do. From my view of this whole situation, it's not about being hated on. It's more about being disrespectful to another artist. If you post anything for others to critic, you're NOT posting it to get disrespected, being told that "you suck" is NOT helpful in any way and it is disrespectful, being refered to as a "garbage MC" is NOT helping and it's disrespectful. When you post, you're posting to get positive or negative feedback in the interest of the artist that they may use the info to improve themselves. It's simple and merc put it best when he said "if you not feeling it, say it and move on" or something similar to that. There's no need to continue to call names unless your intent is to disrepect. Sometimes you show more than you're trying to show when you attempt to overmake your point. We being adults, should know that sometimes it's better and even more helpful not to say anything at all if you can't say anything positive even in a negative way. Keyword: adults. Enough said about that.

Here's the part where I take merc's advice and move on...thanks again Truth for being a superstar! To all the other cats that had some negative/positive comments that can be used to build...good looking out for real! I definately learned alot from this whole ordeal, I hope we ALL did. I'm sure that some will "get it" and some won't but such is life. I can't speak directly for ILLMUZIK but I think it's a great medium to enhance your skills, knowledge, quality and understanding of music and the industry at any level. Fade I hope you and the other moderators keep it that way too.

wun,
the dactor just stepped out
 

Kevin A

Differentiated Rebel
ill o.g.
Welcome to the real world Dac, I'm a artist by nature beyond just making beats. I graduated from the 3rd best art school in the nation and have been in countless critiques. When I give a critique it's from a artist point of view, not just somebody who makes beats, or some superficial this is how you get into to the industry bs. I was actually easy on you compared to some stuff that I've said to others at illmuzik who've had better production than what you displayed before awhole nation. And like I said before, I wasn't really talking about you or your track in the first place, but it seems that point keeps flying over heads. You can't see that I'm trying to be nice? I've done good in saying what I've said. I've deluted my hater-aid with alot of water, because it was my last cup, don't make me make another batch. :D
I'm not feelin the softcore critiques that's all. How will you stand the pressure of fame kid. Being let down easy is for girls. BOO
 

incogneeto

J.B. LEGACY
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
Kevin A said:
Seems like he thought I was hatin on him. Wings I agree with you, yeah I probably shouldn't have use the word sucks, but at the same time I don't recall commenting on the quality of the track.

This totally had to do with the mc. I think this was a situation where the track could not stand on it's own as a good work of art without the help of the mc. The track did nothing for me at all, it was neither good or bad in my opinion. Some music you can listen to, and the artist be booty, but you can surely know that the track is hot. It's like rounding off to the nearest wackness, the track is zero, and he's negative 5, so he takes the value of the whole production into the negative.

I'd rather never make it at doing what I love, than to compromise my art producing garbage mc's and hating my job after awhile. Money does not equal happyness. I believe serious artist set standards for themselves, even if producing for wack mc's is not one of them. You should have Represented on the track hard, you need to make people say, that track is tight. But it all comes back down to working with the talent we got, and all that other music business stuff you talked about. Do your son.

SIgned The Hater :)


yo...a beat is a beat.....but an MC MAKES A TRACK.......garentee u put eminem over one of my beats, i'll sound like a genius.........
 
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