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ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 32
keep working at it. its annoying i know but just keep trying and trying
 

M!nd_Ctrl

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ill o.g.
I don't think there is one answer. Research it. Have you tried layering your drums or adding a bass sound behind them? Also, you don't NEED compression on drums. Most people abuse it anyways.


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Chrono

polyphonically beyond me
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 5
I usuially mix as I create it. Placing in things and tuning them right then and there. Then again you never know how you will need to tune it specifically until you get close to finished, usuially. Also.. my projects have been booty for the most part anyway so i might not know what i'm talking about. although my day is coming!
 

nonie

Kohie
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 4
Solace said:
You Gotta Read About Compression And Mixing... Thats How I'm Learning Reading And Putting Them To Use... My Overall Mix Game Is Getting Tighter.. Especially My Drums... Got Like 2 - 3 Eq's On It Sometimes To Get That Sound You Want... So Kep Working At It...

Gawd-Father-U

What would to recommend reading?

@ whoever said you don't need compression on drums, I read in an article that compression was what industry producers use to get their drums bangin.
 
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The Bastard

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Seoul P said:
Man, EQing these things are getting me pissed and I know I already made a thread about it, but I can't seem to get my mixes sounding like everyone elses with the drums kicking through nicely. Also, do you guys just lay one compression on a kick for example or multiple compressors? ANYTHING will be appreciated.
they key is eq,layering and compression, i dunno whut type of sampler,software ur using but, theyre will usually be presets for compressing drums, like if u got a drum sample in audtion u can go to , amplitude,dynamics processing, and theyll be a preset right there for compressing drums, from there u can tweak their setting and get it to sound like u want, layering is key too, u just gutta fuck around man trust me once u start experiemnting ull see how easy it is
 

M!nd_Ctrl

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ill o.g.
Seoul P said:
What would to recommend reading?

@ whoever said you don't need compression on drums, I read in an article that compression was what industry producers use to get their drums bangin.


First off, you're lazy! You can't even look back to see that I wrote that. <b>I've read</b> about compressing drums and IT'S OVERUSED! I don't read Source magazine's "Guide to Eq'ing and compressing your drums." You read one article and think you know it all , but then you ask people for help with your dilemma. Do your research and stop trying to get people to solve your problems for you. You say "What would to(sic) recommend reading?" The internet is a vast place FULL of knowledge. Stop being a noob and get some answers through Google.

I did a quick search here and found these:

https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11439&highlight=drums
https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7748&highlight=fat+drums

Anything else you want me to do for you?

Also, I've always thought that Engineers are the peeps that ultimately fatten up the sounds for "industry producers"


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The Bastard

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M!nd_Ctrl said:
First off, you're lazy! You can't even look back to see that I wrote that. <b>I've read</b> about compressing drums and IT'S OVERUSED! I don't read Source magazine's "Guide to Eq'ing and compressing your drums." You read one article and think you know it all , but then you ask people for help with your dilemma. Do your research and stop trying to get people to solve your problems for you. You say "What would to(sic) recommend reading?" The internet is a vast place FULL of knowledge. Stop being a noob and get some answers through Google.

I did a quick search here and found these:

https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11439&highlight=drums
https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7748&highlight=fat+drums

Anything else you want me to do for you?

Also, I've always thought that Engineers are the peeps that ultimately fatten up the sounds for "industry producers"


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now now, lol go easy on the lil guy
 

J Cro

Hulkamaniac
ill o.g.
the thing about mixing and compression and eq and all that is everybody will give a different answer. so just search google for diff shit and then try out all the different things they say and thru all of them you'll find what you like and dislike and eventually your own mixing style will develop.
 

M!nd_Ctrl

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ill o.g.
BASTARD said:
now now, lol go easy on the lil guy

I know I came off a bit harsh, but he needs to hear it. He wrote "ANYTHING will be appreciated."

I know this is a community where peeps help each other out, but I don't think he wants help. He wants answers and skills, but these only come through hard work and persistence.

Seoul, I hope you're not offended by what I wrote.

Maybe I should've used a smiley face.


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nonie

Kohie
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 4
lol, trust me man, I've read up on it a bunch of times and printed off many artciles and tips on how to get my EQing and Compression right so don't tell me that I'm just using you guys to answer my questions. The reason I made this thread was to find out what YOU GUYS do to make your beats sound so crisp and having the drums bumping through so I can go out and try it on my own.

I never said I knew it all man, I was just mentioning that because that was the first time I've heard someone say that compression isn't needed in Hip-Hop production.

And yeah, I forgot all about layering tracks. Thanks guys.

I know this is a community where peeps help each other out, but I don't think he wants help. He wants answers and skills, but these only come through hard work and persistence.

That doesn't make since cuz answers come from help and no one can teach you skills and if I was lazy then I wouldn't even have bothered to ask but nah man, I want to learn more about this.

Peace.
 

M!nd_Ctrl

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ill o.g.
Seoul P said:
What would to recommend reading?


What doesn't make sense? You made the statement above. You need to do the research. By "answers" I meant that you want specifics/short cuts, which is not going to happen because everyone is different. You just have to learn it yourself.

I gave you some advice. I told you about layering and how compression is overused, but you came back with some "industry producers" talk.

This has been talked about before, so ran an illmuzik search for you, which should be done before you post.

Someone please tell me if I'm wrong.

Good luck,

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nonie

Kohie
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 4
M!nd_Ctrl said:
What doesn't make sense? You made the statement above. You need to do the research. By "answers" I meant that you want specifics/short cuts, which is not going to happen because everyone is different. You just have to learn it yourself.

I gave you some advice. I told you about layering and how compression is overused, but you came back with some "industry producers" talk.

This has been talked about before, so ran an illmuzik search for you, which should be done before you post.

Someone please tell me if I'm wrong.

Good luck,

Ctrl

I already told you I did do research and I know I have to learn it myself but I was asking for tips or other things you guys learned from.

And I took your advice into mind, that's why I responded back saying that I read in an article about compression being very important and necessary. I just wanted to clarify cuz like I said earlier, it was the first time I heard someone say that.
 

eXampuL_oNe

LOW-PRO
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
Man, a Kick compression is not always the answer. Whenever I make a sampled beat (usually on Fruity Loops) I hardly ever use a Kick compression. I use a multi-pressor on the overall mix but never a direct compression on any one sound. Try that, it helps to bring out the levels and it comes out shining nice. The way I do it is like this. During the beat I usually mix as I go, like Chrono. When I get to a certain point in the beat where I feel a sound needs more punch I just add that eq. After I do that to any sounds that I feel need it. I mix the master track with a Parametric EQ and use a multi-pressor. The thing with this and all compression is u don't want to over use. When you over use you get that nasty muddy pumping sound that tears your mix apart. Just go easy with it and use very little (harldy noticeable) if at all..
 
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