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Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
The T in T-Pain stands for Truth it seems! And Dr Dre agrees!

It's not just us here on ill begrudging all you type-beat same-old same-old copycat beat types. The big names have called out all these rappers doing exactly the same thing, and it's exactly the same thing that applies to you samey samey trap template YT tutorial type beaters.

We have all the shit you’re doing,” he said in part. “Lil Uzi Vert is already it. Lil Baby is already doing it. DaBaby is already doing it. It’s literally two n-ggas with Baby in their name that’s already doing all the music you want.
“Do something else! Do something else! That’s it! That’s all we want. Do something else! Holy shit. We have it! We have it already!


...and there you have it. What we be saying, the big names be saying. Stop copying the same 1 beat... it's lame, and ultimately, not ill!



 
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OGBama

Big Clit Energy
I @Iron Keys love when people speak truth and his rant is why I personally don't listen to none of these lame ass "Lil's," "Young's," and rappers with crew initials like YBN, etc. Hell I barely listen to Hip Hop.
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
lol same..altough i produce mostly ''trap'' i dont know 99,6% of these rappers..their beats are cheap. And they rap off beat as if its some kinda fashion.

It's because kids and wannabes are always shit copies of whatever is out.

So what you have, is a cycle of shit!
- rappers/music be shit
- kids make shit copies of shit that is shit
- accessibility means no quality control means kids have a platform for their shit
- shit shit starts getting released
- kids become accustomed to listening to absolute shit; shit music; shit bars; shit technique ... and now think that is the standard
- make shit and more shit gets released and consumed because no one has a good gage or standard for judgement
- the cycle of shit perpetuates
 
It's because kids and wannabes are always shit copies of whatever is out.

So what you have, is a cycle of shit!
- rappers/music be shit
- kids make shit copies of shit that is shit
- accessibility means no quality control means kids have a platform for their shit
- shit shit starts getting released
- kids become accustomed to listening to absolute shit; shit music; shit bars; shit technique ... and now think that is the standard
- make shit and more shit gets released and consumed because no one has a good gage or standard for judgement
- the cycle of shit perpetuates
The atlantic just called, it wants its salt back. Shitty music is the fault of label execs that push it and make it popular. All creative outlets are being watered down into mediocrity. Its the times we live in and its only going to get worse. Imagination is being stifled until we are surrounded by mediocrity, this is all by design. Better get used to it.
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
Shitty music is the fault of label execs that push it and make it popular. All creative outlets are being watered down into mediocrity. Its the times we live in and its only going to get worse. Imagination is being stifled until we are surrounded by mediocrity, this is all by design. Better get used to it.

The shitty music was the fault of label execs, but they still had a quality control over the shit music.

Now music is accessible; to make, record, release, distribute, promote.

On the surface, that sounds like a good thing - everyone who was making great music can now get their stuff out there and heard; but that's the problem... EVERYONE can get their music out there. So what happens is you just this absolute flood of pure shit. Everywhere. It's absolutely everywhere. So especially kids, but anyone, is accustomed to poorly written, poorly recorded, poorly performed music. So they have absolute ZERO ability to discern what is good or bad - and that's why we have/had A&Rs and other label people... to help keep some standards and control over what is actually good enough. Whether that was majors or independents.

The accessibility of music, especially in regards to releasing it, along with social media has been large part responsible for the collapse of quality in music. And kids. Always blame "the kids".
 
Battle Points: 153
To look at it from the bright side, that shit opened up a lot of doors for everybody. The whole music maffa has been taken down. Artists are free to create and publish, how shitty that is 95% of the case. But what were the chances your beats would be chosen by a Sony or deathrow label? Cmon now......Atleast in this era you can get in touch with artists and you might even produce some fire tracks. I believe eventually hard work and dedication, and a good portion of self reflection will get you a long way :)

@Iron Keys Ur a super fire producer, and skilled enough to make something of this hobby. Get your music to the right artists, and some day that shit will head off in the right direction man :facts: These battles are not a good representation of the true value of your or who evers work. There is taste, bad taste, and no taste :p
We learn from our music among eachother, and the feedback and battlefeel is whats its about..:)
 
The shitty music was the fault of label execs, but they still had a quality control over the shit music.

Now music is accessible; to make, record, release, distribute, promote.

On the surface, that sounds like a good thing - everyone who was making great music can now get their stuff out there and heard; but that's the problem... EVERYONE can get their music out there. So what happens is you just this absolute flood of pure shit. Everywhere. It's absolutely everywhere. So especially kids, but anyone, is accustomed to poorly written, poorly recorded, poorly performed music. So they have absolute ZERO ability to discern what is good or bad - and that's why we have/had A&Rs and other label people... to help keep some standards and control over what is actually good enough. Whether that was majors or independents.

The accessibility of music, especially in regards to releasing it, along with social media has been large part responsible for the collapse of quality in music. And kids. Always blame "the kids".
I agree to an extent, we have an overabundance of beats. Its oversaturated the market. By the rules of supply and demand there is far more supply than demand
 

Fade

The Beat Strangler
Administrator
illest o.g.
I agree to an extent, we have an overabundance of beats. Its oversaturated the market. By the rules of supply and demand there is far more supply than demand
Everything is over-saturated today. Everything. There's too many people on this planet. According to the Georgia Stones we should only have 500 million.
 
The shitty music was the fault of label execs, but they still had a quality control over the shit music.

Now music is accessible; to make, record, release, distribute, promote.

On the surface, that sounds like a good thing - everyone who was making great music can now get their stuff out there and heard; but that's the problem... EVERYONE can get their music out there. So what happens is you just this absolute flood of pure shit. Everywhere. It's absolutely everywhere. So especially kids, but anyone, is accustomed to poorly written, poorly recorded, poorly performed music. So they have absolute ZERO ability to discern what is good or bad - and that's why we have/had A&Rs and other label people... to help keep some standards and control over what is actually good enough. Whether that was majors or independents.

The accessibility of music, especially in regards to releasing it, along with social media has been large part responsible for the collapse of quality in music. And kids. Always blame "the kids".
I was actually going to make this same point. Now everything is direct/ no filter... "Back in the day", you would have copycat bands/ rappers but as soon they got their deal, the record labels would tweak their image and sound so that they had their own lane.
Yes.. There was a Pepsi for every Coke.. Like an 'Nsync' for every 'Backstreet Boys', and a 'Christina' for every 'Brittany'... but at least they had different color hair. :sneaky:
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
I agree to an extent, we have an overabundance of beats. Its oversaturated the market. By the rules of supply and demand there is far more supply than demand

Obviously saturation is a problem... but you'd think in an ocean of shit beats, good ones would stand out. But they don't.

Because the issue is, not enough peiple have the ability to discern a good beat from a shit one.

And no, it's not subjective.
 

OGBama

Big Clit Energy

crog85

Absolute Mobster Lobster
Battle Points: 858
So @Iron Keys… i dont listen to much mainstream music, so I maybe its not that obvious to me, but I saw this video from PVLACE (808 mafia) last night that randomly popped up on my feed, and… well…

 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
So @Iron Keys… i dont listen to much mainstream music, so I maybe its not that obvious to me, but I saw this video from PVLACE (808 mafia) last night that randomly popped up on my feed, and… well…


Wow big share, Crog!!!

It's one thing people like T Pain or Dre saying it, it's another when it's coming from the actual people who are being looked up to for making it.
 
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