Yay, beat jacking!
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hell Id sample you, but wouldnt release anything I sample from the illfam without their knowledge. I wouldnt release anything sampled without the necessary consent.
i know one thing for sure, if I could play like you Id be sampling myself.
You got some ill skillz. At least you have the vid of you making the beat, that counts for something.
yeah man just stay on your grind, i wouldn't pay this dude too much mind. send him an email and see what's up but you cant sue someone over soundclick.
on the issue of copyrights, a little bit of knowledge i found very helpful from a more experienced producer: technically you do have a copyright when you create the beat, but it doesn't mean shit. thats because if you have no proof that would stand up in court that shows the exact date you created it, you can't prove the other person who stole it didn't make it first. so the best thing to do if you can't get around to copyrighting every beat is simple: get a big email account on gmail or yahoo and email yourself your beats as you do them, and save those emails. worst comes to worst and some major producer jacks something off your myspace, you now have proof of date of creation, and with that you can do something.
on the issue of copyrights, a little bit of knowledge i found very helpful from a more experienced producer: technically you do have a copyright when you create the beat, but it doesn't mean shit. thats because if you have no proof that would stand up in court that shows the exact date you created it, you can't prove the other person who stole it didn't make it first. so the best thing to do if you can't get around to copyrighting every beat is simple: get a big email account on gmail or yahoo and email yourself your beats as you do them, and save those emails. worst comes to worst and some major producer jacks something off your myspace, you now have proof of date of creation, and with that you can do something.
yeap. i just did that.
bigdmakintrax
BeatKreatoR
I will tell you from the old school perspective, I would have filled out the SR form, that covers the sound recording of the composition, and then if I really, really cared enough about a track like that, which you should because its extra dope for an RnB song, in the right persons hands they could make a platinum song out of it alone, then I would have printed out the sheet music from a software program and also registered the Sheet music....that would be the correct way to copyright sure fire, and that way you if you did want to sue.....A lawyer would not hesitate to touch your case...all of the above examples are sloppy and not so reliable ways to guard your work, I am speaking as an ASCAP member and one who has gone to many music industry conferences and heard how you do it and the difference between how you think it should be done, as always, if you care about your music please go the extra mile and protect yourself with REAL COPYRIGHTS....if you really want to seek statutory damages upon infringements you need to register properly
This explains why the "about their biz" producer will always register important works
In the United States, statutory damages are set out in Title 17, Section 504 of the U.S. Code. The basic level of damages is between $750 and $30,000 per work, at the discretion of the court.
Plaintiffs who can show willful infringement may be entitled to damages up to $150,000 per work. Defendants who can show that they were "not aware and had no reason to believe" they were infringing copyright may have the damages reduced to $200 per work.
Under 17 USC 412, statutory damages are only available in the United States for works that were registered with the Copyright Office prior to infringement, or within three months of publication.
This explains why the "about their biz" producer will always register important works
In the United States, statutory damages are set out in Title 17, Section 504 of the U.S. Code. The basic level of damages is between $750 and $30,000 per work, at the discretion of the court.
Plaintiffs who can show willful infringement may be entitled to damages up to $150,000 per work. Defendants who can show that they were "not aware and had no reason to believe" they were infringing copyright may have the damages reduced to $200 per work.
Under 17 USC 412, statutory damages are only available in the United States for works that were registered with the Copyright Office prior to infringement, or within three months of publication.
That's what they call a "poor mans copyright" and it's never been legit as far as pursuing a lawsuit! Waste of time! That or physically mailing to yourself is bogus.
As we dont have ASCAP here in the UK the physical mailing method is the only way to register a date of copyright, it does stand up in court as long as the envelopes havent been tampered with.
So I wouldnt call it bogus, I dont think the emailing it to yourself method will stand up in court, due to the ability to change your computers time and date, that could well be bogus, at least until its tested in court.
if you have a time stamped attachment of the song that you can download in court along with session files, i have a hard time believing that it would be thrown out. unlike physical mail, you can't tamper with a 6 month old gmail message.
I've been jacked too....
I made a beat back in 2004... Put it up on soundlick.... Got jacked soon afterwards...
You tell me if I got jacked....
My version: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=124315&songID=1456712
The Jacked version: http://www.boomkat.com/jukebox/jbFramed02.cfm?tracks=119142:88629&type=music
There's always something that they could come up with to discredit your email...
I made a beat back in 2004... Put it up on soundlick.... Got jacked soon afterwards...
You tell me if I got jacked....
My version: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=124315&songID=1456712
The Jacked version: http://www.boomkat.com/jukebox/jbFramed02.cfm?tracks=119142:88629&type=music
There's always something that they could come up with to discredit your email...
GRAFIK
Vinyl Addict
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
yeah def sounds like it was jacked! How could you look at yourself as a producer when you steal other peoples shit.....I dont get it.
Yer shits hot tho man and theres plenty of busters out there that dont have the pride to grind on their own and do their own thing so they bite people like you. I hate to say it but that shit is inevitable these days, technology is definitely both good and bad in that respect....
wow: that was totally your beat. Crazy. Nice beat though.
KurtisRich
Pussy Monster
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 13
That is why its always good to copyright ur beats before u post it on the net ..... D D D
MagnaOpera
Comes Equipped...
ill o.g.
OMG think about all the money he's stealing from you by doing that!!!?!?!?!?!1