What's Better....roland Phantom...or Yahamha Motif?

[incogneeto]

What's Better....roland Phantom...or Yahamha Motif?????????????????????????

JUST WANNA KNOW WHICH ONE YOU PEEPS THINK IS BETTER.....I'M UPGRADING FROM MY MPC2000XL TO ONE OF THESE....I JUST NEED EVERYONES INPUT...................GIVE ME SOME DETAILS AND OPINONS...HOLLAA

 

[young_keyz]

why upgrade why not just add to the set up.....and its not about whats better but what will work good in your self up....you live right in new jersey go to a place and play them. i know some guys who could make a better track with a casio than a guy with every new keyboard that came out in the last two years cause its what works for him.

 

[Cleverwon]

I've had the Korg Triton, and the Phantom couldn't fuck with it. But I just got the Motif ES, and its fuckin sick. Go with the Motif.

 

[dacalion]

for function--Phantom

for sound quality--MOTIF

dac

 

[God]

Through the effective utilisation of software controllers over your synth, it is possible to make any of the synthesisers mentioned do your bidding. However, the only question is the base samples that the synth comes with, as well as its functionality regarding your personal preferences.

If you learn how to manipulate the filters, envelopes and effects, any synth is boundless. However, a matter of personal taste is involved. Remember if a person owns a specific machine, they will be more likely to support their own machine rather than analysing the situation differently.

I think the Fantom-S and the Motifs were made to directly compete with the Korg Triton, so market share may not be lost. I don't think that there was an air of innovation involved in the ideas.

Test them out and find out the opinion for yourself, which is the most important opinion. (I think the Motif is better as workstation .)

Sincerely,
God

 

[pirell]

the Fantom-s is a grade higher than the korg triton, all reviews ive seen rate it better, it came out after it anyways to be fair..so itll have an edge over it, its like an MPC/sequencer and workstation all in one for not too bad a price.

the triton has more RAM and also a cd bay, so thats a slight edge over the fantom, but only just. roland have now come out with the fantom-x, which takes it a big step over the fantom-s. the sampler in the fantom works amazingly great..ive seen my pal use his and its no different or only slightly to the way you'd use an MPC.. its the real shit. im getting the fantom-x so yes ill be a bit biased. but reviews have vindicated me

 

[leemajors]

For those who possess either the motif es or the Fantom s, how are the sampling functiosn on these machines? Pro's and Con's. I'm thinking of purchasing one or the other and I would like to know some of the owners opinions. I been researching both for a couple of months but l have yet to come across anything definitive regarding sampling capabilities from an owners perspective. I understand that websites exsist that are dedicated; however, I've noticed that they tend to be extremely bias when it comes to answering questions such as the one I've posed.... Let me set this up. Say, for example, the Mpc 2000 represents a horrible sampler (I own one) and Asr-10 reps a great one, out of the Yamaha and the Roland(who's who), if you where to place them in a steel cage, who'd win? Also, which one is easier to use? And, how are the sequencers? Ya, it's loaded.

 

[pirell]

im not too familiar with using the sampler on the fantom i own one now..but still getting to grips with it. but will get back at ya,

 

[ART MPC 4000]

IVE ONLY HERD GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE MOTIF I NEVER HERD ANYONE SAY ANY THING (GOOD OR BAD) ABOUT THE THE PHAMTOM SO I SAY KEEP THE MPC (YOULL THAKN ME LATER) AND GET THE MOTIF

 

[Cold Truth]

honestly? keep the mpc and get yourself the rack version of either the fantom x or motif.... why?

i have worked with the following:

triton le, motif rack, the roland xp 80 and 30, the proteus 2000, and the tr rack.

the triton, while admittedly a scaled down version, still isnt worth the money that it costs, at all. the earlier roland boards were superb and i left the 30 for the triton le which was a HUGE mistake, and i got rid of the 80 to get the motif rack... by FAR the best sounding of any keyboard... except for the fantom patches i have heard on the x. and those are really a toss up.

i say go with the fantom xr modlue- if you have the mpc you you dont need the additional sequencer, and the mpc sequencer is the best and easiest i have ever worked on with the exception of cubase sx( i now use cubase sx and sampletank 2, in case you were wondering.) and i would kill for that fantom x or the motif rack again...

it really isnt worth it to get the keyboard versions- your mixdown options become very limited, and the total of 18 outs with an mpc and module combined are invaluable. i say keep the mpc ad get a rac moudle and midi keyboard.

 

[young_keyz]

as a keyboardist beat maker you must look at a keyboard as a reflection of yourself and its nothing that you can understand with out playing with one and finding out. When i play keyboards i ask myself will this keyboard last me for a while or come and go like a fad. I own a motif es and if the the motif classic would of had just four insert effects i would of never go the ES but im into tweaking sounds so i get a kick out of being able to have all them sounds being used in seq mode and dont have to resample to get what i need. Phantoms Motifs and Tritons are all rompers which means they all have pretty much alot of the same soudns give or take the strong and weak points of every keyboard has so sometimes you should just take a risk and try something different out (maybe).

 

[Cold Truth]

well, yeah, they have strong/weak points- synths (leads/pads..) are generally the strongest point of korgs, "bread and butter" is a toss up between the motif and roland, although the rhodes/organ/keyboard type patches have been better on the motif in my experience while the rolands excell at orchestral(strings, horns, etc..) sounds....

the thing you should ask yourself is, what is important? sampling? what sounds in particular are you looking for? plus, you should ALWAYS play them in perso9n yourself efore ANY purchase (if you cant find a sam ash/guitar center, etc.. .then i guess tha toption is out the window..>)

there is my additional 2 cents. hope it helps some.

 

[incogneeto]

I AM SELLING THE MPC AND GOING FOR THE MOTIF ES7.....I LIKE HAVING EVERYTHING RIGHT AT YOUR FINGERTIPS......I DONT WANT TO HAVE 1000 MODULES HOOKED UP TO EACH OTHER IF I CAN HAVE IT ALL IN ONE....IF I MISS MY MPC (WHICH I LOVE TO LAY DRUMS DOWN WITH) I WILL GET ANOTHER USED ONE FOR CHEAP....BUT FOR NOW I MUST LEARN THE MOTIF......HHHHOOOOLLLLLLLLAAAAAAA....INCOG

 

[Cold Truth]

... ok, do what you feel is right- but remember, (i at least..) am speaking from experience by saying that the "all in one" option isnt allits cracked up to be..... all you need is one sound modlue.... and if you are determined for the all-in-one route,

the fantom x is the beter choice- they included the pads fordrum programming which is a huge step over the motif es, plus they offer much better expansion options. the sampler and effects section seems to be much better as well...

i do recommend that you try them both out before settling on the motif es 7... the roland has a more rounded board, as the motif is lacking in the synth/pad department, where the roland is much better all around....