The reason why hardware IS better than software !

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MarkN

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Because to run software you need a PC, and PCs are shit they are the most erratic unreliable machines ever made ! trying to install pro tools caused my whole system to crash luckily my m8 is really good with computers and has managed to save most of my stuff !
rant over !
 
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The Bastard

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u can run software on a mac too, and those are VERY reliable
 

themucka

"The man behind the Hits"
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MarkN said:
Because to run software you need a PC, and PCs are shit they are the most erratic unreliable machines ever made ! trying to install pro tools caused my whole system to crash luckily my m8 is really good with computers and has managed to save most of my stuff !
rant over !


hardware and software is the winning combination...

so like tony would in 2g " say hello yo my lil mac" g5 dual proccer that is.

mac shit on pc 2 me.. jus pc destroy macs on all the free shit you can get>
 

Craig Gantt

Microphone Violator
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And so begins the long debate over which is better hardware or software I would agree with Mucka though everybody I work with uses their mac + protools in conjunction with the rest of their hardware.


off topic: How ya been Mucka? Long time no talk
 

themucka

"The man behind the Hits"
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Craig Gantt said:
And so begins the long debate over which is better hardware or software I would agree with Mucka though everybody I work with uses their mac + protools in conjunction with the rest of their hardware.


off topic: How ya been Mucka? Long time no talk


jus chillin putting in work trying and taking care of the family.

trying 2 do big thangs like erry other mofo
 

PrOLifiK

Wax Fondling Since 420
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lol put together your own computer and u wont have to worry about stupid stuff like that.....all the stuff u need none of the bs u dont
 

MarkN

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PrOLifiK said:
lol put together your own computer and u wont have to worry about stupid stuff like that.....all the stuff u need none of the bs u dont

i did i custom built thi from scratch specifically for music !
still no luck ive managed to get it working now I THINK !! been practicing my pro tools skills for a few hours : P
 

KurtisRich

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The thing that sucks about computers and softwares is that you have to keep updating your PC (Rams, processors, etc.). For every software, when they come out with new ones, the files are always larger in newer versions than the previous versions which will take up a shit load of space and memory. As of right now I'm using both hardware and software. I can get things done quicker with hardware than software. I just hate turning on the PC and loading up files and programs. By the time I'm done loading everything up, I'll be losing my idea. I just hate that.
 
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MarkN said:
lol yea sorry fade i never meant to actually turn this into a hardware software debate i just wanted to moan about how unreliable PCs are !
AND U GOT A RIGHT TO, EVERYONES PC HAS FROZEN/CRASHED OR GLITCHED ON THEM AT SUM POINT AND MADE THEM LOSE SHIT . BUT PICTURE HOW LUCKY WE ARE COMPARED TO PEOPLE THAT EDITTED AUDIO 30 YEARS AGO, THEY LITERALLY HAD TO SPLICE TAPE ALL DAY WITH A RAZOR AND TAPE IT BACK TOGETHER.
 

hpnotiq

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"they are the most erratic unreliable machines ever made"

truest statement right there, damn computers can piss me off sometimes.
 

Big Tone

You done fucked up
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in 4 years i havent had any setbacks with any of mine. and i use mine to go online with too (except the laptop, that has never seen the internet). got antivirus and spyware remover. still hummin along. of course i bought a new comp about 4 months ago but the other one was still good.
 

O-H-TEN

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MarkN said:
Because to run software you need a PC, and PCs are shit they are the most erratic unreliable machines ever made ! trying to install pro tools caused my whole system to crash luckily my m8 is really good with computers and has managed to save most of my stuff !
rant over !

What type of pc are you trying to put pro tools on? Pro tools is a monster and if you don't have enough ram, the right os, or chipset, it will eat your poor pc alive! Digidesign is pretty specific on what chipsets and cpu's are compatible with the software. I'm sure you know all of that; but I know alot of people who like to blame the software or the pc for something they neglected to anticipate. Having said that; I still have to agree with you that whether it be pc or mac problems will show their ugly face at one time or another.
ONE
 

Hypnotist

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Really? What specifications does it have? What version of Pro Tools are you running, and what type of interface are you using (mbox, 001, 002, etc)?

I haven't really used Pro Tools on a PC, but I know that Macs are really reliable. But with any machine, you do have to KNOW your machine to be able to run it. Very often you have to restart before using, or reset your ram by pushing a couple of keys on the mac (rare) or deleting some incompatible software that competes with others, and some people don't know to turn off all other software while running Pro Tools, especially all the little things that run in the bottom right corner of your PC that eat up ram.

Someone mentioned that you get so much more free stuff on PCs, but people tend to download them and make their PC a powerhouse to handle everything from Porn to Final Cut Pro. Some advice: Use your computer strictly for Pro Tools, and limit what else you have. If anything's questionable, read up on compatibility issues.

In terms of hardware vs. software, I prefer software simply because there are so many shortcuts and algorithms that were made to make magic in a matter of seconds. But if you're a recording buff like me, then you appreciate both, because you need hardware several steps along the way. And the top-of-the-line consoles (SSL and Neve) have the sickest software in them for taking snapshots of the mix and fader moves. True, these things cost as much as a decent-size house, but this is the beauty of where hardware and software collide.

And they STILL crash! I've been in music sessions with important clients, and the engineer will be making a mix and then lose ALL his work. Not the files; the Pro Tools systems seemed fine at the time, but every fader move and EQ setting and send were GONE.

Damn I ranted... whoever reads this is really bored.

Anyway... If you have software, it's up to you to KNOW your software. Know the limitations of your RAM and processor, and why it works for other people. Go on forums like duc.digidesign.com and ask questions and search for related posts. I went through a lazy spell myself, where I learned the LEAST amount that I needed to learn and EXPECTED IT TO WORK immediately out-of-the-box.

It is only after mistakes that we learn how to make headway. For any new producers/beatmakers: be prepared to make these mistakes and be ready to put up with them and you'll have to be strong enough to move on. Not to mention all the critics out there who tell you that your sh%t sucks and to stop and move back to Montana. Keep doin what you was doin when you was doin it.
 

MarkN

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its 3ghz processor 1 gig ram etc so its up to running the stuff, i using m powered pro tools with an audiophile 24/96 it all runs fine now actually however i now have problems switching my PC on where i get an error message up after a few attempts it will switch on and pro tools will run fine ! strange !?
 

Shonsteez

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It really depends on numerous factors though such as; What specs your computer is running, what OS u have, Do u maintain and keep everything clean on a weekly basis (ie. Defrag, etc.), do u go on the internet - or is your computer soley dedicated to music and nothing else?.....All that shit is super important to have a solid running system.
I kno one thing from personal experience which is the internet fucks your computer up royal, even when u have the dopest anti-trojan/virus software, shits just enevitable.
My advice is stay the fuck away from the internet if u really want a dedicated system to work on....and thats just a start.

STEEZ
 
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