Swing?

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Phi'Zik

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ill o.g.
I think "swing" in hiphop trems , it means that you don't quantize your drums (or any sound). it seems to be more human.
 

DrOscillator

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
i think the placement of the snares has a lot to do with it; like if you put them a few tics after the 2 and 4 of the beat it sounds more "relaxed" and if you put them a few tics before the 2 and 4 it sounds more driving
 
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Toivo

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Swing is a another term for shuffle, syncopate the kick drum and maybe the hi-hat to get that shuffled sound. Listen to any Pete Rock beat to get it right.
 
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open mind

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yes a swing adds the human feel to the drums instead of the perfect mechanical timesignature.if u want to make your drums more human dont quantize to hard.
 

Relic

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ill o.g.
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If its "swung" in the south its the "swang" function and it literally makes the beat "swing" as in swing music...jazz..When done with the hiphop vibe like my man says Pete Rock and alot of older school for sure. and yes police you can get your swing on.
The higher the setting the more the swing. Be sure to make a copy of what your doin before you adjust the swing rate to a track you have already completed, if you dont have an undo feature, or you'll be pissed if the rate is too high. Also , NO , there is no magic setting its your preference. :)
 
ill o.g.
open mind said:
yes a swing adds the human feel to the drums instead of the perfect mechanical timesignature.if u want to make your drums more human dont quantize to hard.

^^ Word...

A computer (chip) keeps perfect time, if you just program a pattern of 16 steps, the computer will be able to keep that PERFECTLY in time. This tends to sound very mechanical if you have a lot fo stuff going on in your 'off' beats. Just imagine watching a band at a show with a drummer who drums like a robot, he hits all his skins and metal at the exact same volume each time, perfectly (and i mean PERFECTLY) timed. Youd never see this, because its quite frankly impossible.

So when people talk about 'swing' its about beats that dont sound like a robot is playing, and more like the meters are playing. And in most software packages there's more than one way to this. For starters you can vary your velocities a bit for each hit, make your off beat bass drums and snares a bit softer, every other hihat or so softer. Then to have the timing sound more natural you can have certain steps in your pattern starts just a tiny bit later or sooner. You can do this manually per step, or in a lot of software you can have the computer setup the pattern according to a template, this is called quantisization. You can also skip all the programming and quantisization and do what someone above mentioned, just hit record and have the computer record the pattern as you play it in on your controller. Of course for this you gotta be able to keep rythm and have that swing yourself, else it wont swing, it'll prolly sting...

Peace...
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
human groove is not swing, swing is mostly a shift of notes in the range of a 1/4 note before or after note (-50/+50%). Human groove isnt that precise, opposed to swing, notes vary in timing individualy in combo with different accents/velocity and enveloping.
 

alkota

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If you are quantizing your drums/sequences to 100% midi/computer... its gunna sound real stiff and unnatural, swing places everything a little later or earlier, depending on your prefs and gives it a natural feel... you can also use the to make your drums sound real "off" beat...
 
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