Fight #346: attila vs. Armani
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Still regarding sampling
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Sample FlipFlip this! Paul Williams - Wistful Dreams.
@attila I'm havin a Great day! so I might as well do my favorite thing in the world while I'm at it. which is complaining.
my buddy n I had this stupid joke when we were 16 where we'd call things "canned shit". the idea came from a short film idea we came up with where this guy goes to the store, buys a can of shit, comes home, empties in the toilet, flushes, smiles and goes to bed.
that's what music can be atp. you download stuff offa splice, mishmash them together, sidechain, basic compression n eq (optional), give it to ozone, tada. if you're so classy and talented, don't get shit offa splice and sample 4 bars offa smokey robinson like a generational talent. I once made like 8 beats in like an hour just like that. "banger" after "banger". pretty sure some of them won battles. honestly I could've went for 20 30 "unique" beats in 1 day but I got bored.
back then at least you had this good feeling deep down like "Yeah, sure, sampling wins here n there, but when it comes to making the real mulah I'll be up there". now that splice n AI n... are out there I miss my sampling folk. at least they loved what they thought they did.
do whatever, nobody cares. nobody cares. worry about yourself, your family, the people that are important to you.
and don't get me wrong I love hip hop. I'll die bumpin lloyd banks. professionally tho, I think I'll pursue film score at the end cause that seems to be the only place they still value shit. I don't think they will in like... 10 years tho. might find me in a bar or something playing banjo n sleepin on the floor for a living later. probably havin the time of my life.
my 2 cents as a friend tho
if you want to learn, sure, go have your sampling phase, hell it'll actually teach you how to arrange shit n how hip hop actually works. if ur always busy "creating" your... "Producing" side of the brain might never wake up. can be a good thing, bad thing, idk. in my case, my sampling phase helped me realize how to put a beat together. how to make shit work, how to... get things to fit without having to edit the melody n... the relation is almost like physics n chemistry in some way.
but keep it a phase. it's addictive. don't be too proud of ur sampled beats. be a lil proud proud (especially if u put effort n soul in, I LOVE a sampled track with soul in it. my favorite producer is kanye west for fucks sake. one of my favorite beats I ever made is only made up of samples. but it's like 6 or 7 samples all used equally. it's... beautiful. I made it 5 years ago and I still like it more than half the shit I make rn. it's called academy or something).
but also be ashamed. imagine chopin looking at you and going "nu-uh", yk?
nu-uh.
he's judgy for a reason. have something to show for yourself when you meet him in hell.
but yeah, nah, if u know what you're doing, cheat as much as they let u get away with. spoiler alert, 80% of the original producers thieves anyway. so much of dre's shit are just "interpolations". steal away. everyone does. the more talented ones do it subconsciously. (I'm not saying all they do is cheat but u get the point).
and enjoy making music.
my buddy n I had this stupid joke when we were 16 where we'd call things "canned shit". the idea came from a short film idea we came up with where this guy goes to the store, buys a can of shit, comes home, empties in the toilet, flushes, smiles and goes to bed.
that's what music can be atp. you download stuff offa splice, mishmash them together, sidechain, basic compression n eq (optional), give it to ozone, tada. if you're so classy and talented, don't get shit offa splice and sample 4 bars offa smokey robinson like a generational talent. I once made like 8 beats in like an hour just like that. "banger" after "banger". pretty sure some of them won battles. honestly I could've went for 20 30 "unique" beats in 1 day but I got bored.
back then at least you had this good feeling deep down like "Yeah, sure, sampling wins here n there, but when it comes to making the real mulah I'll be up there". now that splice n AI n... are out there I miss my sampling folk. at least they loved what they thought they did.
do whatever, nobody cares. nobody cares. worry about yourself, your family, the people that are important to you.
and don't get me wrong I love hip hop. I'll die bumpin lloyd banks. professionally tho, I think I'll pursue film score at the end cause that seems to be the only place they still value shit. I don't think they will in like... 10 years tho. might find me in a bar or something playing banjo n sleepin on the floor for a living later. probably havin the time of my life.
my 2 cents as a friend tho
if you want to learn, sure, go have your sampling phase, hell it'll actually teach you how to arrange shit n how hip hop actually works. if ur always busy "creating" your... "Producing" side of the brain might never wake up. can be a good thing, bad thing, idk. in my case, my sampling phase helped me realize how to put a beat together. how to make shit work, how to... get things to fit without having to edit the melody n... the relation is almost like physics n chemistry in some way.
but keep it a phase. it's addictive. don't be too proud of ur sampled beats. be a lil proud proud (especially if u put effort n soul in, I LOVE a sampled track with soul in it. my favorite producer is kanye west for fucks sake. one of my favorite beats I ever made is only made up of samples. but it's like 6 or 7 samples all used equally. it's... beautiful. I made it 5 years ago and I still like it more than half the shit I make rn. it's called academy or something).
but also be ashamed. imagine chopin looking at you and going "nu-uh", yk?
nu-uh.
he's judgy for a reason. have something to show for yourself when you meet him in hell.
but yeah, nah, if u know what you're doing, cheat as much as they let u get away with. spoiler alert, 80% of the original producers thieves anyway. so much of dre's shit are just "interpolations". steal away. everyone does. the more talented ones do it subconsciously. (I'm not saying all they do is cheat but u get the point).
and enjoy making music.
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attila
ILLIEN
Battle Points: 1
You talk to me as a producer, and I'm fine with that. I don't even know what Slice is. Here I'm not talking about what I do and how I do it. But about what I love. As I mentioned in some comments, take 'Glory Box' by Portishead. It's literally a loop of Isaac Hayes with a voice on top and some guitar hits here and there, and I tolerate having come into this world just to be able to listen to tracks like that. In 'Hell Is Round the Corner', Tricky added some more noise, but it's the same thing, and that too is a masterpiece, and I'm glad they decided to make these songs anyway. If I sampled the same bars, we wouldn't have any masterpieces like that; I'm not talking about myself here. I also like house music. One or half a beat of disco music, a four-on-the-floor pattern, and some effects. There's a piece by Virgin Prunes it's a single sample of strings, it will be less than two seconds. Alone, repeated the same, without variations, for two and a half minutes. It's one of my favorite tracks; I've been listening to it for thirty years. I even sampled it and made it worse.
attila
ILLIEN
Battle Points: 1
About canned shit, I'm a total big fan of Piero Manzoni. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit