I would really like to know which program is better to use............SONAR 4 or 5 OR PROTOOLS..............i think that in SONAR you can use alot of plugins.......and with PROTOOLS you have to buy alot of plugs for the ilok.........i would just like to hear what everyone is using because i dont know which one i should stick to on a consistent basis.........i have both and that is because everyone says PROTOOLS is industry standard..........but i prefer SONAR........let me know what the real deal is folks
SONAR or PROTOOLS
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StressWon
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I think it depends on what you are more comfortable with as well. I havn'y messed wit Pro Tool although I do want to copp that. I do have Sonar and I don't mind using it. I couldn't give you an opinion being that I never tried Pro-Tools, but I hear it's the way to go. But just because something is industry standard doesn't mean it will work for you. I know dudes that wanted to get into music production and get everything because it was "Indutsry Standard" or "this is what so and so uses",,,,always go with what YOU think is better. Hope I could help.
Da IllFellaz
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pro tools is industry standard. u can take one of those sessions dat is recorded at ur crib n send it to a mastering suite to get it mastered with ease. its nto dat hard of a program to understand da basics of it. everythin is pretty straight forward as far as fundementals r concerned.
How Is Protools Better
but there are so many things that you can do with SONAR that you cant seem to do with PROTOOLS.........you can use VST and DXi plugs.........unlimited tracks......on SONAR 5 you can even use the MBOX as your sound card...........you cant use VST on PROTOOLS.....you are limited on your tracks.......so what makes PROTOOLS so much better.........this is where i dont get it
but there are so many things that you can do with SONAR that you cant seem to do with PROTOOLS.........you can use VST and DXi plugs.........unlimited tracks......on SONAR 5 you can even use the MBOX as your sound card...........you cant use VST on PROTOOLS.....you are limited on your tracks.......so what makes PROTOOLS so much better.........this is where i dont get it
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u can use vst instru. on protools but u need the merger to make it work
ed_sizzahanz
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Sonar 5 is what I use. I have Pro tools and never use it. But it's a personal preference. When I take my Sonar tracked productions to another studio that has ANY other DAW. I burn a Project Folder file from Sonar which has every track in .wav From there i open it in the studios DAW with ease.
MORFEEUS said:
The bottom line is what you're more comfortable with, but I would really, really, really suggest you go with PT. Its the industry standard for a reason. If you're trying to break into the (major) producing game today and can't track a beat on pro tools, you're gonna get some slim ass checks from your artists.
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Definately Protools ......get to learn it and your koo
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Prolific0ne
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... but I use Sonar 5 and Pro Tools. I can track in either environment and if you save my Sonar files as OMFI, I can take them complete to any ProTools studio and use it. I think that any producer/engineer worth the title will use the tool that he likes best and acquire the knowledge to integrate it into the industry standard.
If you can afford Pro Tools TDM, (at about $6,000 minimum) you get 32 max tracks, no VST or DXI plugin support, (out of the box) and you still need to buy a computer! My Sonar 5 producer cost me $599.99, I can use ALL the VST/DX effects, VST/DX instruments that I've accumulated over the years and STILL track my artists vocals in a "real" studio on Pro Tools.
I only have Pro Tools LE for MBOX1 and it works and sounds fine, but I know that my tracks only sound better in the bigger studios because of the hardware not the software. If I paid that much, my stuff BETTER sound that good. I've been in studios that track in Sonar and they sound just as good on that expensive hardware as a Pro Tools LE session from an MBOX...
... but I use Sonar 5 and Pro Tools. I can track in either environment and if you save my Sonar files as OMFI, I can take them complete to any ProTools studio and use it. I think that any producer/engineer worth the title will use the tool that he likes best and acquire the knowledge to integrate it into the industry standard.
If you can afford Pro Tools TDM, (at about $6,000 minimum) you get 32 max tracks, no VST or DXI plugin support, (out of the box) and you still need to buy a computer! My Sonar 5 producer cost me $599.99, I can use ALL the VST/DX effects, VST/DX instruments that I've accumulated over the years and STILL track my artists vocals in a "real" studio on Pro Tools.
I only have Pro Tools LE for MBOX1 and it works and sounds fine, but I know that my tracks only sound better in the bigger studios because of the hardware not the software. If I paid that much, my stuff BETTER sound that good. I've been in studios that track in Sonar and they sound just as good on that expensive hardware as a Pro Tools LE session from an MBOX...
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Prolific0ne said:
Question.. I got Sonar 6 Producer Edition. and i know they got home studio editions n shit.. Should i get a home edition for recording vocals, or should produer edition handle all that shit? Also get at me on aim if u can: Sanova The don
thedreampolice
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"pro tools doesnt have a limit on the tracks either unless ur using a lower spec version "
you mean like the TDM version that starts at 10 grand
you mean like the TDM version that starts at 10 grand
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i think there are both pros and cons to both programs. With pro Tools being the industry standard, i think more people will tend to go that way. But, they both get the job done and thats whats key. I use Audition and that's widely used in television and animation projects,,,so it really is up to what the user ultimately feels works best.
"Protools is the industry standard." "Protools is the industry standard." "Protools is the industry standard." "Protools is the industry standard."
That only means that they were there first and the recording studios adapted it before any other solutions became available. It doesn't mean that it's better, and in many ways it's not.
It approched things from the audio side and that is it's focus, though it is improving its MIDI slowly but surely. If you are into midi based instruments, most sequencers are ahead of Protools in this area.
If you are planning to do a lot of business with recording studios for finishing work, then having protools is useful, but there is no shame in using other tools to compose your music. Since you have both Protools and Sonar, you can just export your Sonar projects as Broadcast WAV files and you should be able to import that into your protools just fine. Then you can take those resulting Protools projects to the studio for postproduction/mastering when needed.
cycloptic
That only means that they were there first and the recording studios adapted it before any other solutions became available. It doesn't mean that it's better, and in many ways it's not.
It approched things from the audio side and that is it's focus, though it is improving its MIDI slowly but surely. If you are into midi based instruments, most sequencers are ahead of Protools in this area.
If you are planning to do a lot of business with recording studios for finishing work, then having protools is useful, but there is no shame in using other tools to compose your music. Since you have both Protools and Sonar, you can just export your Sonar projects as Broadcast WAV files and you should be able to import that into your protools just fine. Then you can take those resulting Protools projects to the studio for postproduction/mastering when needed.
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at the end of the day the result is a WAVE FILE ON THE COMP BURNED INTO CD.
INDUSTRY STANDARD OR NOT. ********* PRO TOOLS!
INDUSTRY STANDARD OR NOT. ********* PRO TOOLS!
thedreampolice
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Use Pro tools for does what it does best, edit audio. It rocks at that. But Sonar is a much better creative tool. If I had to pick one it would be sonar. But tools are tools....
thedreampolice
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I think TDM is around 128 tracks. And that is more than enough, but still silly to limit it these days. And thats one of the (many) reasons I like Nuendo/Samplitude/Logic over Pro tools. Pro tools has so many silly limitations. But if you want to work in a real studio someday you need to know it a bit.