sample choppin and beat\making advise

[sYgMa]

main.. F@$*CKK a computer....

lol... I aint mad at you man... if you did it, good for you... lol

as for the drums, N.U.G. and I posted a couple of drums, so look them up:
https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10941&

of course, if you dont have the right coordination or you cant keep a tempo, making anykind of beat with the MPC will be reaaaal hard.

 

[JPeg]

use the pitch control on ur turntable perhaps

 

[J Cro]

Your missing the point of what time strecthing actually does.
You get the idea of pitching it up (think vocals - kanye style) or pitching it down ( again think vocals - dj screw). But there are more features to time stretch. You can change a sample thats 2 bars at 110 BPM to 2 bars at 95BPM etc without changing the pitch. So it sounds the same just different tempos.
Check these examples.. Time Stretch...

These clips start at 74 BPM which the original sample is. They then switch to 92 BPM. You can do it many different ways.

This method keeps the pitch pretty much the same. Usually marked Tonal or Preserve Pitch , etc

This method changes the pitch up or down. You dont even need an editor for this one. If your loop is an exact loop say 1 bar at 95 BPM and you wanna use it at 90 BPM just turn the pitch knob down 100 cents. 20 cents = 1 BPM. This obviously changes the pitch

This method works nice if your program is capable of it. It slices up the audio and plays it back at the given tempo(think ACID). However Recycle allows you to chop it up how you want and save ti as a REX file which you can use in just about any program these days.

You can also get creative and use combinations of any or all of the different methods involved. There are a few more ways to do it , these are just the 3 I use the most.

There is no way to make beats without time strechin your loops. Unless you make the beat at the original samples tempo.

 

[Relic]

if you can get on the internet go to the akai website and download the new OS for the MPC1000 this gives you a timestretch feature, then you can slow the sample down to the right speed then just bang out your drums.

you can't just move the drums and put snare on the 4th instead of the 2nd because this halfs the tempo and if the original sample is 114bpm half of that is 57 which is way too slow for hip hop so you need to timestretch it !

Hate to diagree with you Mark, but it works.
It worked for him and its worked for me.Not everybody has a computer and whatever did we do without time stretching?
Sanova had it right as well. (as Usual)
Drop the drums last and make sure it fits...
Doesnt take alot of tech for that!
I like the fact that Maxx is on here on a library computer, that shows that he REALLY depends on this site for advice and that he is bangin his thing out for real real at the crib, without alot of the stuff we take for granted.
Can I get a "Word"?

 

[5th Sequence]

Relic i'm not disagreeing with your method but i'm totally not understanding how it works.

Ah well.

I agree with grafik and J-cro. Timestretching slows down or increases the length of a sample with maintaining the pitch of it. The best way to use timestretching in your situation is to chop the sample in necessary places and then timestretch each individual peice. If you dont have timestretching, then I dont see it being possible to get what you're after.

 

[N.U.G.]

Your missing the point of what time strecthing actually does.
You get the idea of pitching it up (think vocals - kanye style) or pitching it down ( again think vocals - dj screw). But there are more features to time stretch. You can change a sample thats 2 bars at 110 BPM to 2 bars at 95BPM etc without changing the pitch. So it sounds the same just different tempos.
Check these examples.. Time Stretch...

These clips start at 74 BPM which the original sample is. They then switch to 92 BPM. You can do it many different ways.

This method keeps the pitch pretty much the same. Usually marked Tonal or Preserve Pitch , etc

This method changes the pitch up or down. You dont even need an editor for this one. If your loop is an exact loop say 1 bar at 95 BPM and you wanna use it at 90 BPM just turn the pitch knob down 100 cents. 20 cents = 1 BPM. This obviously changes the pitch

This method works nice if your program is capable of it. It slices up the audio and plays it back at the given tempo(think ACID). However Recycle allows you to chop it up how you want and save ti as a REX file which you can use in just about any program these days.

You can also get creative and use combinations of any or all of the different methods involved. There are a few more ways to do it , these are just the 3 I use the most.

There is no way to make beats without time strechin your loops. Unless you make the beat at the original samples tempo.

excellent desription and examples of different techniques

props

 

[Relic]

Thanks tho N.U.G. I havent used that feature on my Mp2500 yet.
Typically I dont sample and when I have it was for such short increments that it just became more like kits, or soundfonts.
I am going to pick my machine up Sunday (Been loaning it out) I'll play with this timestretching thing.
The sp1200 didnt have anything like that, thus we had to get creative.
All that does is pitch up and down while changing the tempo.
So we made the loop fit first then we could go back and drop drums.
I know it sounds impossible but I have a track that is at 140 but sounds like its at 85 BPM.