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Anyone have the default sounds from Reason (new-er versions/lastest version)? I want to use them for FL if anyone is kind enough to upload 
thedreampolice
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Fl can't open reason libraries. So this is not possible. On top of that why would anyone use stock sounds?
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Reason has good stock sounds, they are good to craft from (as a starting point)
Every song/beat i EVER make uses stock reason sounds. I might tweak them a bit later with fx but still, if you have a good selection of goto sounds then the workflow improves drastically. It doesnt matter if the sounds are stock or not.
I can put together 4 decent beats in the time it takes to 'tweak' a synth to sound how i want. And thats just one instrument.
Some people like spending forever playing with the synths to create their own sounds. I personally would rather spend my time getting some work done.
thedreampolice
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A producer is only as good as the new sounds they create. Sorry it takes only a few minutes to create everything new. If you are slow at it, practice.
Bullshit. A producer is only as good as the SONGS they make. Where the sounds come from to make that music is irrelevent.
Bach, mozart, beethoven.... None of them created a sound. What they did do was use the instruments available at the time.
Good music is good music. Regardless of if you spent a month creating "that unique sound".
Understanding how synths work, how to tweak them and use asdr etc is essential yes, but creating unique instruments simply isnt.
a sound engineer is only as good as the sounds they create.
thedreampolice
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A beat doesn't sound near as good with weak drum sounds for example. Beethoven playing a good piano will sound better than on a crappy piano. But sampling/producing cant be compared to a composing anyway. Your analogy is a false one. A PRODUCERS job is to create new sounds, a COMPOSERS job is to write interesting melodies.
No I beg to differ I think it is you who is not getting it.
A producer is not a sound engineer, a composer IS loosely A PRODUCER.
A producer can be a sound engineer but its not required.
Technically a producer doesnt even necessarily have to be able to even make beats, not if he has a good studio engineer that can create the vision that the producer has.
The bottom line is why reinvent the wheel?
Why spend months or weeks creating an authentic sounding grand piano, when people already have?
Why spend a shitload of money on a soundbank that often doesnt even match up to the stock refills?
So what sounds has Pete Rock "created"? So he isnt a producer?
Hip hop was built on sampling other music that was already created, it wasnt built on creating new sounds.
A producer is not a sound engineer, a composer IS loosely A PRODUCER.
A producer can be a sound engineer but its not required.
Technically a producer doesnt even necessarily have to be able to even make beats, not if he has a good studio engineer that can create the vision that the producer has.
The bottom line is why reinvent the wheel?
Why spend months or weeks creating an authentic sounding grand piano, when people already have?
Why spend a shitload of money on a soundbank that often doesnt even match up to the stock refills?
So what sounds has Pete Rock "created"? So he isnt a producer?
Hip hop was built on sampling other music that was already created, it wasnt built on creating new sounds.
2infamouz
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I'ma have to go w/ 2good on this one...I don't buy synths / plugins to have to work to get a good sound. I like them to be dope out of the box with only slight changes in ASDR and processing/effects required to get where I'm trying to be. Sound design is important for music production, but a seperate occupation IMO...not to say you can't do both, and the results would probably be more impressive in some cases, but trying to design every instrument in a project would have me sick of the beat before I got started...
thedreampolice
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Dude, Pete rock ABSOLUTELY created his own sound and was outspoken against stock libraries. He sampled vinyl like crazy to find the right kick, then layered that with another kick sound to create just what is in his head. I am not saying reinvented the wheel per se. Also an ENGINEER is a technician more than anything, I really dont view that roll as creating sounds at all. Sampling manipulation and layering IS creating new sounds. You have to strive to make it your own PERIOD. I don't want to use sounds that a million other people can use.
a Producer, PRODUCES product, the buck stops with them they need to create something new or communicate to someone else what they want.
a composer writes actual music from scratch, creates compelling melodies and song structures.
an engineer works on the technical side, making sure the recording is done properly they can EFFECT the sound the musicians create with processing, but their role is largely not to create new sounds.
a Producer, PRODUCES product, the buck stops with them they need to create something new or communicate to someone else what they want.
a composer writes actual music from scratch, creates compelling melodies and song structures.
an engineer works on the technical side, making sure the recording is done properly they can EFFECT the sound the musicians create with processing, but their role is largely not to create new sounds.
I know he created his own signature sound, we are talking about sounds being created(sound engineered) not a producers signature sound. Sampling vinyl hardly scratches the surface of sound engineering.
Depends on what type of engineer we are talking about, if you are talking about a mixing engineer or a mastering engineer then what have they got to do with SOUND engineering?
SOUND ENGINEERING is its own discipline. Done by sound engineers/studio engineers/recording engineers.
thedreampolice
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I think your are confusing the term sound engineer with sound designer.
Ok that may be so, but now you are arguing semantics. Go back to my previous posts, replace any mention of sound engineer withe sound designer and my argument still stands. And your proposition that a producer is only as good as the sounds he creates is as ridiculous as when you first said it.
thedreampolice
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No, I disagree. What is the point of a producer that produces nothing new? That is not art it is factory work.
Now this post right here highlights your arrogant and holier than thou attitude.
Just because it takes you a few minutes to bodge sounds doesnt mean it takes everyone else a few minutes.
I can and do create my own sounds, and it doesnt take a few minutes. But whever i create my sounds or use stock sounds, if the beat is dope it doesnt matter one jot where the sounds came from.
The music buying public generally doesnt give a flying fuck whether the producer created the individual sounds or not.
And if he didnt create the sounds then he isnt any less a producer.
Producing and sound design are 2 different things. A sound designer can produce and a producer can sound design.
But a producer that doesnt sound design is still a producer. A sound designer that doesnt produce is still a sound designer.
Now why is that so hard to understand? Or are you being deliberately pedantic to avoid admitting you were wrong?
thedreampolice
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I am simply saying a producer should try and create a new sound. Always strive for originality. If you are using stock sounds that is harder to do. Create your own libraries, build your own tools. And yes, every legendary producer from Kanye, to Dre does this. This doesnt seem all that crazy of and idea to be honest.
No that isnt what you were saying. I covered signature sound briefly earlier.
"A producer is only as good as the new sounds they create. Sorry it takes only a few minutes to
create everything new. If you are slow at it, practice." - That is what you said.
I feel we are going around in circles. Im going to leave this alone now, before I get agitated.
2infamouz
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Basically your options are to ReWire into FL, or record something w/ stock instruments in reason, bounce it down to a .wav and import it into your FL projects. That's the only things I can come up w/Anyone have the default sounds from Reason (new-er versions/lastest version)? I want to use them for FL if anyone is kind enough to upload
thedreampolice
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Yes, I stand by that. Dont get me wrong I am not saying you need to create ever snare from scratch or anything. But the overall end goal should be to create your unique sonic signature as a producer. Sorry, I thought this discussion was all in good fun, truly not trying to agitate. Its all good man!
