Reason DAW feature

[7thangel]

can't..read...eyes...hurting...need..paragraphs.....

other than the line 6, i wouldn't want to use reason's fx, not because it can't be used but because i don't rate it in terms of usability, sound, aesthetics, etc.

overall, not impressed but to each his/her own.

i guess we can forget them ever actually improving recycle, shit's ancient.

 

[thedreampolice]

Spend more time with Reasons effects, As you know I have access to about every plugin and hardware effect there is and I find myself using Reasons reverb all the time! The mastering compressor also sounds great.

I am excited about Record because the workflow in Reason is so fantastic and I want to work that way. I already had multiband compressors and any EQ I could want in reason. Not sure the complaints there.

BTW Line 6 OWNS Propellerheads so having a POD effect is NOT 3rd party.

" Aside from the typical reason sound (algorhythm)"

This statement is mathematically insane

Also with out Reason installed there is none of the software instruments. The sequencer in Record is not nearly as good as Reasons. I want to pick the best tool for the Job and Reason in the best software sequencer (at least that fits with my brain) You don't hate on a hammer for not being a screw driver do you? Pick the right tool for the job man.

Also

"A poor craftsman blames his tools"

 

[Formant024]

@ 7th: specialy for you

@ dream: i never knew line6 owned them hehe.
Other than that, i found that productions from the people i know really had the same distinct sound to them. Alike (i think) a lot of reason users, most of them didnt use anything else except the onboard soundcard or something high end. Of course its a matter of how you integrate reason in your setup (converters, outboard etc) as in that case you couldnt tell the difference in FL or Reason because you decide how it sounds eventually....but the filter's sounded really thin imo (eq and synth algorhytmn), never a controlled decadent mix. Perhaps that's from not using the rewire option or, again, just lack of knowledge on the engineering side but i bet a pro can get a decent sound out of it.

From the Reason productions we received in the studio i have to conclude that its always been a mess with most clients. Mostly we have to turn each track inside out removing all kinds of artifacts from them as all they used was reason and a poor selection of samples (hiss in each kick, snare, hat...come on...) and really bad eq'ing/compression. They had to bring in their cpu, open the projects, set everything back without compression and neutral eq to get it mixed properly, in other cases they just had to pay more because the mixing job took longer than necessary.

Btw, im not hating so lets not feed the troll, im really objective on writing this. I was also under the impression that there would also be Reason modules in Record (aside from the new rompler in there), but you got to have both instead. In that case Record would be the cheapest solution (aside from linux software or FL) if you're not working with a daw already.

 

[Formant024]

i guess we can forget them ever actually improving recycle, shit's ancient.

Holyshit yeah! Im still running it but logic kinda took over here with exs24/ultrabeat.

 

[thedreampolice]

Right on, ya it seems if someone does not know what they are doing it will sound horrible. I can see how you would get lots of cats in the studio with crappy sounding tracks.

For a good example "To the 5 Boroughs" from the Beastie Boys was almost all made in Reason. There are so many top 40 hits with Reason all over them these days. Don't hate! ha ha.

 

[2GooD Productions]

The simple fact of the matter is that most producers really dont know what they are doing when it comes to mixing and adding fx, I still have so much to learn myself. My tracks are starting to sound a lot better sonically now I know a lot more about what Im doing. But shit Ive been fucking with reason for nearly ten years now, and Im still finding out new shit about it. Im not hating on reason, except for its lack of being able use waves plugins without rewiring through another very expensive program. As for Record, I cant personally see what good that would be for me, as Id just use pro tools or acid or cubase for audio recording, chop in soundforge, then create rex files with recycle or just load straight into an nnxt. Note the use of some very expensive software just to be able to do that.
Also, is record a feature to be added to reason or a standalone piece of software?
Im not sure what record actually is. I assume its just audio recording and sequencing software.
I would expect it to support export of reason friendly files like rex files, and some good chopping tools.
But I am struggling to find what niche this software will fit into other than live bands.

 

[Formant024]

Its a stand alone program that embeds reason when you have it installed. The both should really have been reason 5 but i think this makes more money for them.

 

[thedreampolice]

Honestly I don't think this has to do with money. They said Reason will NEVER have audio. So they are keeping there word. Also it makes the tools easier to work with. IE you can have the best sequencer features if you don't have to worry about audio recording.

 

[The Arkitekt]

propellerheead should make like a "mixer" add on (not like the mixers already in reason, more like a standalone/add on thing like Record) with the whole shit like inserts, etc. That would be very appealing. That way people who just use it for a rack can just get reason for that purpose, if they want a mixer with everything integrated they can purchase the "mixer" part too. I would probly buy that tomorrow if they made it

 

[2GooD Productions]

propellerheead should make like a "mixer" add on (not like the mixers already in reason, more like a standalone/add on thing like Record) with the whole shit like inserts, etc. That would be very appealing. That way people who just use it for a rack can just get reason for that purpose, if they want a mixer with everything integrated they can purchase the "mixer" part too. I would probly buy that tomorrow if they made it

Now thats a fucking good idea, especially if it allowed the use of waves plugins.
I like the idea of add on functionality.

 

[The Arkitekt]

Now thats a fucking good idea, especially if it allowed the use of waves plugins.
I like the idea of add on functionality.

well ya of course, that would be the purpose for the inserts for fx, etc. Just support for vst's and all that good stuff. That would be perfect for Reason cuz I know how propellerheads likes to make the stuff like hardware, it would be like buying a mixer for your equipment lol

 

[Step Soprano]

hell yea i'd fuck wit that shit... but i guess there excuse is plug ins would fuck up the stability... but fuck that shit

 

[Greg Savage]

One of the hardest things I find to recreate with synths is guitar, its hard to capture the nuances of the instrument. Its the same with instruments like cello, its hard to create the wobble that the cello player creates through wobbling their hand while playing.

That's actually a lot easier than you think my friend you can set up your Mod wheel to control little things like that.

Replicating the guitar isn't too difficult either isometimes it can be a little difficult depending on what kind of guitar you're wanting to replicate. I find most of the guitar found in Rnb tracks are simple (nuance wise)

 

[Scholar]

Record!

ok it looks like the Prop bakers had enough talk...
http://www.propellerheads.se/products/record/

 

[thedreampolice]

Lots of other much older posts about it

https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24511