Phonte from Little Brother with some wisdom

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dahkter

Ill Muzikoligist
ill o.g.
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Copyin and Pastin this blog from Myspace, some wisdom regarding the industry from Phonte of Little Brother, good read IMO:

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Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Chicken Noodle Soup for the Broke Rapper's Soul

Niggren,

I'm in Baltimore prepping for our show tonight at Sonar and I have approximately one hour before I have to get so krispy and go downstairs, so I'mma make this as quick, easy, and painless as possible....

Aspiring producers/rappers/songwriters always hit me on the email asking my advice on 'gettin in the game' and so forth. I've never been the one to really give advice, but with the record business being on the edge of shambles and so many cats trying to make sense of it all....I thought I'd give you guys some insight straight from the front lines at Ground Zero:

1. Good music is not good enough anymore.
You have to have incredible music. Outstanding music. Music that is simply excellent beyond all measure. As artists coming along in the digital age, the key thing to remember is that we are not fighting for people's money, so much as we are fighting for their time and attention. I mean, real rap......content is everywhere. Free downloads, screensavers, raingtones, Youtube clips, etc. Consumers are constantly bombarded with free shit, and finding your way through the bullshit to get to the good shit is TRULY a labor of love. Part of the reason why me and Pooh made Getback a slim and trim 11 songs is to help cut through much of the clutter in today's market, and to give the listeners the straight story.....people don't have the time to sit through 18 songs, an intro, 5 skits, an outro, and 2 more 'hidden' tracks. As artists we should always say what we have to say and PROMPTLY shut the fuck up when we're done. (For those of you not convinced and still pissed about the short tracklisting, don't worry, there will be plenty of bonus cuts and exclusive material available at other outlets...) In our present age, brevity is golden.

2. There is no better marketing strategy than great music.
Yeah, I'm talking to you, the nigga on his myspace page with his shirt off...AND you, the chick with 'falling objects' on her page with the words "R&B PrInC3SS and First Lady of *insert startup label/money laundering operation here*"

While it is very true that all artists require an image to some degree, a great image means nothing if your music is shitty. Your image may get people to look, but your music is ultimately what will KEEP them looking. I can honestly say that in my few years in this game, everything I've ever gotten has been solely off the fact that people respected my music and understood what I was bringing to the table as an artist.....not because I had a big label budget and a video directed by Steven Spielberg and shit, just my hard earned respect. Respect, in my opinion, is the cornerstone of any successful career.

Now, I will say that there's another side to this: To keep people's attention, you must have either great music.....OR really, really, really, really, really shitty music that's just so hilarious and niggerish beyond measure that it makes people laugh. There's a reason why the Chocolate Rain nigga got over 2 million youtube views, folks.....and its not because we are laughing WITH him..

*moves away from the mic to breathe in*

Most of the music that gets passed to me from cats at shows, is quite frankly, just aiight. Not terrible and definitely has potential, but not particularly great either. In my opinion, this is the WORST kind of music you can make because it doesn't evoke a listener response either way. So either be really great or really horrible....either way, people won't forget you and you'll grab their attention. The kind of attention you want to grab is all up to you though....

3. The 'rap as a hustle' ethos is pretty much dead.
Make music for the right reasons. If you're looking to do this solely as a way to get paid, you will be very surprised (and disheartened) once you find out that there isn't much money to be made. Not to make myself out to be Mr. Wendal or no shit, because I do pretty well to be a nigga with practically no mainstream radio/TV exposure.....but I gotta be real with y'all and hit you with a quote from the Holy Book of Elevators, Chapter Andre, Verse 3000:

"I live by the beat like you live check to check...."

This rap shit is uncertain, yo. And with the industry being in the state of transition that it is now, its even worse. My heart goes out to every one of you pursuing your dream of making music in this digital age......I couldn't imagine what its like to be a brand spanking new MC trying to be heard in 2007. Trying to make it as a rapper in today's marketplace is like trying to convince a woman who's been raped to have sex with you. I mean, imagine a woman who's been beaten, brutalized, sodomized, pissed on, Wesley Pipe'd, fucked in and out of every hole, forced to perform any and every depraved sexual act you can think of...........and here you come, the nigga with flowers and candy whispering in her ear and telling her that with you 'things will be different....'

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....... (c) Dr. Evil

This is the uphill battle that we are all facing as artists: an ever-changing marketplace, an artform that arguably has peaked financially, and a base of consumers that are much more cynical than ever. *sigh* Good luck...

4. This shit really ain't that major yo....
Always, always, always remember this key phrase: It's just music, people. Yeah, I know its art and the voice of God workin through us and all that cosmic shit, but when all is said and done, school will still be open on Biggie's birthday (c)Chris Rock So many of us throw our lives into this, often to the point of self-sacrifice and self-sabotage, and we often forget what is really important: the lives of those around us, and the people we really love. So whenever this music shit gets you down, just fall back, log off, go outside and get some fresh air, have a raspberry banana smoothie, hug your girl/wifey/kids and tell 'em you love em, and thank God that you're blessed to see another day.....

....or if that don't work go get the autotune plug-in for ProTools and saing all your songs like my nigga Terrycloth Pain.

Godspeed and best of luck, my fellow artists......you're gonna need it.

Getback 9/25

In the club with his shoes off,
Tigallo

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TheDragon

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
This is a really good read and it is very insightful. I remember one night after communications in April, this other local producer and I basically had a conversation like this, except with out the stuff about the artists on myspace. If any of you are on the fence about reading it, just read it, you won't regret it.
 

LDB

Banned
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 73
Nice insight from someone in the game, so to speak. I agree with some of what he says but not all. I can't agree with the statement that you have to have incredible music for one. Shit...just turn on your radio and see what's in round the clock rotation! Payolla is still alive and kicking! "Catchy music" doesn't always equate to "incredible music " and alot of what's in major rotation is far from incredible but if listened to enough times is catchy.
I guess if you're trying to create some epic type shit it needs to be incredible.....how many producers are on that shit right now though? Regardless, if this is your bread and butter you gotta try to pay the bills. Times are changing not because of the people making music...it's the ones controlling the music industry. It kind of feels to me likes there's an all out attack on hip hop/rap music. Alot of money has been made on the production/artist level but know one has taken that money and tried to create more avenues for our music. No real credible labels started etc etc. The Master P's of the world took their money and bought unneeded bullshit like 2 or 3 million dollar bedrooms, 20 millon dollar homes! The one's who really made a grip did nothing to improve the game on a business level. Money is power and most don't use it wisely IMO. Alot of the game should be controlled by us after all this time, so who's really to blame?

P.s. "us" means the ones doing it on the street or root level...."us" does not refer to color or race! Just thought I'd clear that up.
 

dahkter

Ill Muzikoligist
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Battle Points: 4
The one's who really made a grip did nothing to improve the game on a business level.

In my thoughts the forces that are making life difficult for producers these days is:

1. no one buys music anymore. as a commodity, it's severely devalued due to mp3 downloading and free music everywhere (myspace/youtube/etc).

2. it's much easier to make music nowadays than at any other point in time. All you need is an off the shelf PC and some basic software (reason/fruity/etc).

3. once you make a hot beat, the market is flooded with producers and beatmakers, so in a law of supply and demand, supply goes up, price goes down.

It's definitely an interesting time for sure, a little unsettling for the old guard, exciting for the new cats, and uncertain for everyone to see how the market will develop over the next few years...
 

Ash Holmz

The Bed-Stuy Fly Guy
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Battle Points: 207
i agree with pretty much evrything he said .... but i think the 3 biggest problems with the industry are :

1)not many people are making REALLY good/original music... (i mean really though, name me an ALBUM that came out in the last few years thats really THAT hot)

2)"single chasing" with no effort or focus put into the "album" .. hardly any artists make real albums anymore.. just a bunch a songs thrown togther by 1000 diffrent producers with a million guest apperances by (insert hot rapper/s of the moment here)

3)lack of control by the artist ... too many "suits" A&Rs, mangers, labels filter alot of shit ... Its crazy... when i hear some of the tracks that people shop around for specific projects and then i hear the finished product, i wonder wtf are these guys thinking.!! how did they take all of that, and come out with that? lol seriously some of the beats i hear from up and comers are fucin crazy hot.. i could (and will for my next project) A&R an album using underground and up and comer producers that will feature better production than mainstream acts. U would think with all these hot producers out here making these sikk ass beats, the qulaity of music and esp production would be better, but its really not lol. It was better 10-12 years ago lol....
 

LDB

Banned
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 73
All valid points! I sit in on A&R telephone conferences put on by various online sites with A&R's from diff't major and independent labels. All say one thing.....that the music industry is a "single" driven market right now. That if you don't have at least 6 or more singles (preferrably all singles) on your album it won't make it. I believe that if you have to damn near have all singles your album won't have any kind of continuity. It won't really paint a picture or tell a story. But what can you do when mp3's and single down load is what the masses are buying? You gotta get in where you fit in. I personally don't think it's ever going back to the way it was 10 or so years ago. We have to adapt and overcome or find another passion. I'm personally leaning toward doing nothing but production from me and other people that plan on releasing there own shit or shoping it. I'm getting totally away from just doing tracks to shop to artist or labels. The market is over saturated with us "wanna be" in the game producers and those actually on. I'm gonna focus on doing complete projects in hopes that a few will get deals major or independent or put there on stuff out and I can just pump tracks to them.
 
ill o.g.
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so if my music isn't really really great...i should make it as shitty as possible?

that is the worst advice i've ever heard
 

LDB

Banned
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 73
so if my music isn't really really great...i should make it as shitty as possible?

that is the worst advice i've ever heard

LMBAO.....ah ha ha ha ha ha...that thru me to. I think he injected his take on the music game into that statement....I looked right past it. There is always a middle ground in anything! The statement was black and white and looked past the grey area. Funny as hell though.
 

Manji

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
. I can't agree with the statement that you have to have incredible music for one. Shit...just turn on your radio and see what's in round the clock rotation! Payolla is still alive and kicking! "Catchy music" doesn't always equate to "incredible music " and alot of what's in major rotation is far from incredible but if listened to enough times is catchy.


so you think since the market is over flooded with rappers and producers, making mediocre music will make you stand out?
 

LDB

Banned
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 73
so you think since the market is over flooded with rappers and producers, making mediocre music will make you stand out?


I didn't say that. 99% of the music out right now is far from incredible so that disproves that theory.

In and ideal music world we all would stand out....but we know very few do. The bottom line is that you don't have to make "incredible" music to make money in the music industry. To leave an unforgetable mark maybe yes....to make money NO. Depends on what your in it for I guess.
 

Manji

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
I didn't say that. 99% of the music out right now is far from incredible so that disproves that theory.

In and ideal music world we all would stand out....but we know very few do. The bottom line is that you don't have to make "incredible" music to make money in the music industry. To leave an unforgetable mark maybe yes....to make money NO. Depends on what your in it for I guess.

I see what you sayin'


you could make some quik cash making snap beats maybe, but unless snap music advances then it'll be just a passing fad. And you wont be able to make long money off the shit.
 

LDB

Banned
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 73
you could make some quik cash making snap beats maybe, but unless snap music advances then it'll be just a passing fad. And you wont be able to make long money off the shit.

lmbao....where did that come from? Who said anything about snap music? Are you just making a comment?
This is getting off the original thread so let me NOT entertain that. B Ez Manji!
 

skidflow

Boom Bap is precious art
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Battle Points: 220
Point blank you gotta get back to the essence of things...embracing what is different but yet dope and partaking in this lifestyle and artform strictly for the love and not the profit. I think hip hop should get back to informing the masses on world issues and making people feel good instead of instilling false hopes and dreams. You give the people something they can feel they'll have your back everytime.
 
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