Official Katrina thread

[sYgMa]

When u lived somewhere ur entire life u become used to the circumstances, its just a way of life. ITs easy to look from the outside and wonder but when u have been there your whole life. Born and rasied for generations. Its becomes a part of u.

You hatian right??? same differnce, ur island is part of your culture......part of your sense of self


clas,,,,,

Aaight, point made...

 

[Opera Populare]

Real News From The Superdome

I took this from another board:

from a friend at the Univ of Texas. It seems to me that everyone
should hear this - it's so easy to believe that it was mad gangs with
guns roaming New Orleans as we have been told when in fact there is
another story to tell)

*the following message is from an african-american former graduate
student at UT. she, lisa moore, whom i don't know, is writing about
what her aunt, denise, told her. i begin in mid-message.*

the buses came and took them to the Ernest Morial Convention Center.
(yes, the convention center you've all seen on TV.)

Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were there for 2 days,
with no water, no food. no shelter.
Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21 years old), and
2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived, there were already thousands
of people there.
they were told that buses were coming. police drove by, windows rolled
up, thumbs up signs. national guard trucks rolled by, completely empty,
soldiers with guns cocked and aimed at them. nobody stopped to drop off
water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all the bottles
exploded on impact due to the height of the helicopter.

the first day (Wednesday) 4 people died next to her.
the second day (Thursday) 6 people died next to her.
Denise told me the people around her all thought they had been sent
there to die. again, nobody stopped. the only buses that came were full;
they dropped off more and more people, but nobody was being picked up
and taken away. they found out that those being dropped off had been
rescued from rooftops and attics; they got off the buses delirious from
lack of water and food. completely dehydrated. the crowd tried to keep
them all in one area; Denise said the new arrivals had mostly lost their
minds. they had gone crazy.

inside the convention center, the place was one huge bathroom. in order
to shit, you had to stand in other people's shit. the floors were black
and slick with shit. most people stayed outside because the smell was so
bad. but outside wasn't much better: between the heat, the humidity,
the lack of water, the old and very young dying from dehydration... and
there was no place to lay down, not even room on the sidewalk.
they slept outside Wednesday night, under an overpass.

Denise said yes, there were young men with guns there. but they
organized the crowd. they went to Canal Street and "looted," and brought
back food and water for the old people and the babies, because nobody
had eaten in days. when the police rolled down windows and yelled out
"the buses are coming," the young men with guns organized the crowd in
order: old people in front, women and children next, men in the back.
just so that when the buses came, there would be priorities of who got
out first.

Denise said the fights she saw between the young men with guns were
fist fights. she saw them put their guns down and fight rather than
shoot up the crowd.
but she said that there were a handful of people shot in the convention
center; their bodies were left inside, along with other dead babies and
old people.

Denise said the people thought there were being sent there to die. lots
of people being dropped off, nobody being picked up. cops passing by,
speeding off.
national guard rolling by with guns aimed at them.
and yes, a few men shot at the police, because at a certain point all
the people thought the cops were coming to hurt them, to kill them all.
she saw a young man who had stolen a car speed past, cops in pursuit; he
crashed the car, got out and ran, and the cops shot him in the back.
in front of the whole crowd.
she saw many groups of people decide that they were going to walk across
the bridge to the west bank, and those same groups would return, saying
that they were met at the top of the bridge by armed police ordering
them to turn around, that they weren't allowed to leave.

so they all believed they were sent there to die.

Denise's niece found a pay phone, and kept trying to call her mother's
boyfriend in Baton Rouge, and finally got through and told him where
they were.
the boyfriend, and Denise's brother, drove down from Baton Rouge and
came and got them. they had to bribe a few cops, and talk a few into
letting them into the city ("come on, man, my 2-year-old niece is at the
Convention Center!"), then they took back roads to get to them.

after arriving at my other cousin's apartment in Baton Rouge, they saw
the images on TV, and couldn't believe how the media was portraying the
people of New Orleans. she kept repeating to me on the phone last
night: make sure you tell everybody that they left us there to die.
nobody came. those young men with guns were protecting us. if it wasn't
for them, we wouldn't have had the little water and food they had
found.

that's Denise Moore's story.
Lisa C. Moore

 

[Craig Gantt]

Quote taken from another site, kinda makes me wonder if Im playin myself thinkin blacks and whites could ever co-exist without the hate

Now, all of this shit that's going on...you know, I'm usually not racist, and I avoid stereotyping, but a lot of this stuff can be blamed on the greedy, racist black people in New Orleans who did not evacuate. All of that "they did not have money" is bullshit. Trust me, there were many ways out, many cheap ways out. These people are the ones who invented playing the race card to excuse behavior. Ray Nagin, the mayor of New Orleans WHO IS BLACK HIMSELF, warned 3 or 4 days before the hurricane hit that the police would NOT be able to help people who decided to stay. Now when the storm hit and people's houses got flooded, people are out risking their lives to save the lives of these idiots. The black ones start bitching that they're not getting rescued fast enough, and the media's buing a lot of it. The government's response is bad, I will admit, but the black people are making it tenfold worse.

There is no reason that they needed to go and steal semi-automatic weapons. There is no reason that they needed to go steal designer hats and 44 inch plasma screen TVs. There is no reason why they should be shooting at doctors and rescue workers who are trying to help critically ill and elderly people evacuate while keeping them alive. They view this as their chance to get back at whitey, to show that they have power. This kind of shit makes me want to vomit.

Now, why am I just saying black people? ALL of the people who have fired at National Guard Troops have been black. ALL the people who have been raping and murdering innocent people are black. You've seen the news footage. Almost every single person who decided AGAINST GOVERNMENT ORDERS TO STAY is black. There were various ways to escape--airlines, automobiles, or trains, whose tickets were discounted to encourage people who couldn't evacuate to leave. They had the money to do it, but they didn't want to. That is THEIR fucking fault, and the government and charity organizations are nevertheless helping them since they are nice. And these organizations are getting paid back with snipers firing at them. And shitheads like Jesse Jackson, the Black Congressional Bureau, and Kanye West are indirectly SUPPORTING this kind of behavior. Go to hell.

And not only are we helping them, we are APOLOGIZING and GIVING THEM MONEY. All food stamp cards belonging to Louisiana residents (which is a lot, since Louisiana is the poorest state in the Union) now have double the normal credit, which makes absolutely no sense at all. I was at a takeout place the other day and heard some black people behind me talking about this. And they were talking about how to exploit it and try to get even more money. One of them even said "This isn't enough. We should be getting more than this." I wanted to turn around and spit in her face.

In addition, Bush is now issuing these cards that is essentially a free $2000 to help people get back on their feet. This makes a little more sense, but is still somewhat flawed, as there are now people from Houston and western Lousiana (that didn't get hit hard at all by the storm) who are trying to get the cards despite the fact that they weren't even touched by the storm. And they've caught some of these people. And guess what? THEY'RE ALL BLACK.

I really feel bad for the honest people (both white and black) who evacuated despite not having a lot of money and who have nothing to come back to. It breaks my heart that many of them are in worse situations than many of the people who stayed in New Orleans despite a mandatory order to evacuate. I hope that the Red Cross's money and the government's money goes to these people who actually did what they were told first before they go to these money-grubbing niggers.

I guarantee you that the situation wouldn't even be half as bad if all of those fucking black people hadn't done all of the shit that you see on TV and all of the shit that you'll never hear about. mtg is right on blaming this on the black people because, well, it's true.we still need need a few things

 

[Protege]

Cuban President Castro offered to sent help this week (1100 docters and medicine) and he is able to sent the first hundred docters today directly, but bush didnt reply on the offer. So during a speech on yesterdays television, he once again said he wanted to sent help cos he felt he had to do something about all those people suffering. That is some real shit, respect to Fidel for that.
And once again disrespect to Bush and his friends for not replying on that shit and accepting some goddamn help. That fakeass honour isnt worth shit when people are dying.

Oh gosh r u an idiot.

 

[Fade]

Protege, chill out once and for all.

 

[Protege]

Fade's an idiot

 

[classic]

Fade's an idiot

Not smart, not smart at all

class.

 

[Lex]

Fade's an idiot

You are a bellend.

Having conflicting opinions is not a problem in the slightest, in fact it's what makes cultures so diverse and interesting, but calling someone and idiot or anything else remotely insulting for having an opinon different from your own makes you a bit of fool.