http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=848
Thought it looked cool and has an interactive screen too.
Thought it looked cool and has an interactive screen too.
Nice MV8800 Ad
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Formant024
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Its funny, again it wont tell you specifications...it nowhere states ssampling frequencies, ad/da etc...
Heres some specs:
Since 2003, Roland's MV-8000 has been a coveted centerpiece for many of the world's greatest hip-hop and R&B producers. With its powerful hands-on features, and its ability to incorporate a VGA monitor and mouse, it brought the best of the hardware- and software-based production worlds together. Today Roland sets a new standard in music production power and flexibility with the MV-8800.
Synthesis, Sampling, Recording, Mixing, Mastering
The MV-8800 is a fully equipped sampler and synthesizer with parameters that can be edited and automated with the assignable sliders and/or with a VGA monitor and mouse (VGA monitor optional, mouse included). It's also an advanced multitrack recorder equipped with an automated 24-channel stereo mixer and mega effects processor. Mastering tools are provided as well, including a parametric mastering EQ, enhancer, expander, multiband compressor, mastering limiter and soft-clip algorithm with output dithering.
Sound Library Onboard
Create your own sounds or load up to 128 instruments or drum kits at once from the MV-formatted sound library that's preinstalled on the hard drive. Newly created drum kits are provided, including a special collection of 16 vintage drum machines such as the legendary Roland TR-808 and TR-909. Acoustic and electric pianos, strings, guitars, horns, synth basses and other essential instruments are also included.
Amazing Pitch & Time Control
Load hundreds of loops, hits, or vocal phrases at once, all with realtime BPM matching. Just tap the tempo, and all the samples lock to your new tempo! You can match the pitches of melodic phrases just as easily. Create loop-based tracks on the fly, all locked together in perfect pitch and time sync.
Vintage & Modern Effects
An incredible lineup of modern and vintage effects is built into the MV-8800, including models of classic Roland SRV reverbs, SDD-320 Chorus, SBF-325 Flanger, Boss BF-2 and HF-2 pedals, and the legendary RE-201 Space Echo. The MV-8800's multi-effects processor includes an Analog Modeling Bass that turns the MFX engine into a virtual SH-style bass synthesizer. All MFX knob tweaks can be automated as you mix.
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Features:
Complete production solution, from beat creation and multitrack recording to mixing, mastering and CD burning
Tight integration of drum machine-style pattern recording and DAW-style linear recording
Realtime control of audio pitch and time, groove quantize, and pattern/song arrangements-great for both studio and stage
World-class sound library preinstalled on the internal hard drive Legendary Roland instrument and effects simulations onboard, including TR-808, TR-909, SRV reverb, SDD-320 Chorus, 325 Flanger, Boss BF-2 and HF-2, and RE-201 Space Echo
Color LCD with icon-oriented interface
Built-in VGA port and optical mouse for DAW-style sound editing with optional VGA monitor
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Specifications:
Sampler Section
Audio Data Format: 16-bit linear
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 kHz (fixed) Maximum Polyphony 64 voices
Parts: 16 (Instruments) + 9 (Audio Tracks) + 1 (Audio Phrases)
Wave Memory (RAM) DIMM: 1 slot (168 pins, PC100 CL = 2 or PC133 CL = 3, 3.3 V, 128 M bytes, 256 M bytes, 512 M bytes), 128 M bytes (standard), Expandable up to 512 M bytes (replacement to 512 M bytes DIMM is required.)
Maximum Sampling Time: with 128 M bytes DIMM (standard), mono: 24 min. approx. (stereo: 12 min. approx.) - with 512 M bytes DIMM (expanded), mono: 100 min. approx. (stereo: 50 min. approx.)
Effects Multi-effects (MFX): 1 (25 types), Reverb: 1 (2 types), Chorus: 1 (4 types), Mastering Tool Kit: 1 (only in the Mastering Mode)
Sequencer Section
Tracks: Song MIDI tracks (1 MIDI channel per track): 128, Audio tracks: 8, Pattern track: 1, Tempo track: 1, Mute Control Track: 1, Pattern: MIDI tracks (1 MIDI channel per track): 64, Audio track: 1, Mute Control Track: 1
Resolution: 480 TPQN
Tempo: 5 to 300
Note Capacity: approx. 150,000 notes
Song Length: 9,999 measures
Recording Method: Event recording (Realtime/Step), Audio recording
Others
Project Songs: 16, Patterns: 500, Patches: 16 (per Song), Partials: 96 (16 pads x 6 banks per Patch), Samples: 9,999, Audio Phrases: 512 (16 pads x 32 banks), Patch Libraries: 128, MIDI Clips: 100, Multi-effects (MFX) Libraries: 144 (Preset: 44, User: 100), Chorus Libraries: 52 (Preset: 2, User: 50), Reverb Libraries: 54 (Preset: 4, User: 50), Mastering Tool Kit Libraries: 76 (Preset: 26, User: 50), Still Images (Photos) for Pix Jam Function: 16
Signal Processing: AD Conversion: 24 bits, 64 times oversampling, DA Conversion: 24 bits, 128 times oversampling
Frequency Response: MIC/Line Inputs: 20 Hz to 20 kHz (+0/-2 dB)
Nominal Input Level MIC/Line Inputs: -50 to +14 dBu (maximum +26 dBu: balanced, maximum +20 dBu: unbalanced), Phono Inputs: -87 to -27 dBu Input Impedance MIC/Line Inputs: 40 k, Phono Inputs: 50 k
Nominal Output Level: +4 dBu (balanced)
Output Impedance: 600
Recommended Load Impedance: Master Outputs: 10 k or greater, Headphones: 8 to 600
Residual Noise Level -86 dBu or less (SENS: LINE, Phono Input Jacks: short-circuited, IHF-A Typ.)
Display: Graphic 320 x 240 dots backlit LCD (Color)
Pads: 16 Pads, Velocity and Aftertouch sensitive
Controllers Effects Control Knobs: C1 to C3, Mixer Sliders: 1 to 8 n Hard Disk Drive 2.5 inches, 40 G bytes
CD-R/RW Drive: Built-in type CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW
Connectors: Phono Input Jacks: L, R (RCA phono type), MIC/Line Input Jacks: L, R (1/4 inch TRS phone type), Master Output Jacks: L, R (1/4 inch TRS phone type), Headphone Jack: Stereo 1/4 inch phone type, Digital Out Connector: A Coaxial type, Digital Out Connector: B Optical type, MIDI Connectors: IN, OUT A, OUT B, USB Connector: supports file transfer (mass storage class), VGA Out Connector: HD DB-15 type, PS/2 Mouse Connector: 6-pin mini DIN type, Foot Switch Jack: 1/4 inch phone type, AC Inlet
Power Supply AC 115 V, AC 117 V, AC 220 V, AC 230 V, AC 240 V (50/60 Hz)
Power Consumption 35 W
Dimensions: 480 (W) x 482 (D) x 136 (H) mm/ 18-15/16 (W) x 19 (D) x 5-3/8 (H) inches
Weight: 9.0 kg / 19 lbs 14 oz
Operating Temperature: 41 to 104 degrees Fahrenheit, (5 to 40 degrees centigrade)
Options Foot Switch: BOSS FS-5U, Pedal Switch: DP-2
The specifications are subject to change without notice.
Actual product appearance may be subject to change.
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Includes:
Owner's Manual, Screen Guide, Appendices, Booklet "Content Discs," Content Discs (CD-ROM), Mouse (PS/2), Mouse Pad, Power Cord, Short Pin
Since 2003, Roland's MV-8000 has been a coveted centerpiece for many of the world's greatest hip-hop and R&B producers. With its powerful hands-on features, and its ability to incorporate a VGA monitor and mouse, it brought the best of the hardware- and software-based production worlds together. Today Roland sets a new standard in music production power and flexibility with the MV-8800.
Synthesis, Sampling, Recording, Mixing, Mastering
The MV-8800 is a fully equipped sampler and synthesizer with parameters that can be edited and automated with the assignable sliders and/or with a VGA monitor and mouse (VGA monitor optional, mouse included). It's also an advanced multitrack recorder equipped with an automated 24-channel stereo mixer and mega effects processor. Mastering tools are provided as well, including a parametric mastering EQ, enhancer, expander, multiband compressor, mastering limiter and soft-clip algorithm with output dithering.
Sound Library Onboard
Create your own sounds or load up to 128 instruments or drum kits at once from the MV-formatted sound library that's preinstalled on the hard drive. Newly created drum kits are provided, including a special collection of 16 vintage drum machines such as the legendary Roland TR-808 and TR-909. Acoustic and electric pianos, strings, guitars, horns, synth basses and other essential instruments are also included.
Amazing Pitch & Time Control
Load hundreds of loops, hits, or vocal phrases at once, all with realtime BPM matching. Just tap the tempo, and all the samples lock to your new tempo! You can match the pitches of melodic phrases just as easily. Create loop-based tracks on the fly, all locked together in perfect pitch and time sync.
Vintage & Modern Effects
An incredible lineup of modern and vintage effects is built into the MV-8800, including models of classic Roland SRV reverbs, SDD-320 Chorus, SBF-325 Flanger, Boss BF-2 and HF-2 pedals, and the legendary RE-201 Space Echo. The MV-8800's multi-effects processor includes an Analog Modeling Bass that turns the MFX engine into a virtual SH-style bass synthesizer. All MFX knob tweaks can be automated as you mix.
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Features:
Complete production solution, from beat creation and multitrack recording to mixing, mastering and CD burning
Tight integration of drum machine-style pattern recording and DAW-style linear recording
Realtime control of audio pitch and time, groove quantize, and pattern/song arrangements-great for both studio and stage
World-class sound library preinstalled on the internal hard drive Legendary Roland instrument and effects simulations onboard, including TR-808, TR-909, SRV reverb, SDD-320 Chorus, 325 Flanger, Boss BF-2 and HF-2, and RE-201 Space Echo
Color LCD with icon-oriented interface
Built-in VGA port and optical mouse for DAW-style sound editing with optional VGA monitor
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Specifications:
Sampler Section
Audio Data Format: 16-bit linear
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 kHz (fixed) Maximum Polyphony 64 voices
Parts: 16 (Instruments) + 9 (Audio Tracks) + 1 (Audio Phrases)
Wave Memory (RAM) DIMM: 1 slot (168 pins, PC100 CL = 2 or PC133 CL = 3, 3.3 V, 128 M bytes, 256 M bytes, 512 M bytes), 128 M bytes (standard), Expandable up to 512 M bytes (replacement to 512 M bytes DIMM is required.)
Maximum Sampling Time: with 128 M bytes DIMM (standard), mono: 24 min. approx. (stereo: 12 min. approx.) - with 512 M bytes DIMM (expanded), mono: 100 min. approx. (stereo: 50 min. approx.)
Effects Multi-effects (MFX): 1 (25 types), Reverb: 1 (2 types), Chorus: 1 (4 types), Mastering Tool Kit: 1 (only in the Mastering Mode)
Sequencer Section
Tracks: Song MIDI tracks (1 MIDI channel per track): 128, Audio tracks: 8, Pattern track: 1, Tempo track: 1, Mute Control Track: 1, Pattern: MIDI tracks (1 MIDI channel per track): 64, Audio track: 1, Mute Control Track: 1
Resolution: 480 TPQN
Tempo: 5 to 300
Note Capacity: approx. 150,000 notes
Song Length: 9,999 measures
Recording Method: Event recording (Realtime/Step), Audio recording
Others
Project Songs: 16, Patterns: 500, Patches: 16 (per Song), Partials: 96 (16 pads x 6 banks per Patch), Samples: 9,999, Audio Phrases: 512 (16 pads x 32 banks), Patch Libraries: 128, MIDI Clips: 100, Multi-effects (MFX) Libraries: 144 (Preset: 44, User: 100), Chorus Libraries: 52 (Preset: 2, User: 50), Reverb Libraries: 54 (Preset: 4, User: 50), Mastering Tool Kit Libraries: 76 (Preset: 26, User: 50), Still Images (Photos) for Pix Jam Function: 16
Signal Processing: AD Conversion: 24 bits, 64 times oversampling, DA Conversion: 24 bits, 128 times oversampling
Frequency Response: MIC/Line Inputs: 20 Hz to 20 kHz (+0/-2 dB)
Nominal Input Level MIC/Line Inputs: -50 to +14 dBu (maximum +26 dBu: balanced, maximum +20 dBu: unbalanced), Phono Inputs: -87 to -27 dBu Input Impedance MIC/Line Inputs: 40 k, Phono Inputs: 50 k
Nominal Output Level: +4 dBu (balanced)
Output Impedance: 600
Recommended Load Impedance: Master Outputs: 10 k or greater, Headphones: 8 to 600
Residual Noise Level -86 dBu or less (SENS: LINE, Phono Input Jacks: short-circuited, IHF-A Typ.)
Display: Graphic 320 x 240 dots backlit LCD (Color)
Pads: 16 Pads, Velocity and Aftertouch sensitive
Controllers Effects Control Knobs: C1 to C3, Mixer Sliders: 1 to 8 n Hard Disk Drive 2.5 inches, 40 G bytes
CD-R/RW Drive: Built-in type CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW
Connectors: Phono Input Jacks: L, R (RCA phono type), MIC/Line Input Jacks: L, R (1/4 inch TRS phone type), Master Output Jacks: L, R (1/4 inch TRS phone type), Headphone Jack: Stereo 1/4 inch phone type, Digital Out Connector: A Coaxial type, Digital Out Connector: B Optical type, MIDI Connectors: IN, OUT A, OUT B, USB Connector: supports file transfer (mass storage class), VGA Out Connector: HD DB-15 type, PS/2 Mouse Connector: 6-pin mini DIN type, Foot Switch Jack: 1/4 inch phone type, AC Inlet
Power Supply AC 115 V, AC 117 V, AC 220 V, AC 230 V, AC 240 V (50/60 Hz)
Power Consumption 35 W
Dimensions: 480 (W) x 482 (D) x 136 (H) mm/ 18-15/16 (W) x 19 (D) x 5-3/8 (H) inches
Weight: 9.0 kg / 19 lbs 14 oz
Operating Temperature: 41 to 104 degrees Fahrenheit, (5 to 40 degrees centigrade)
Options Foot Switch: BOSS FS-5U, Pedal Switch: DP-2
The specifications are subject to change without notice.
Actual product appearance may be subject to change.
Roland MV-8800 Production Studio Includes:
Owner's Manual, Screen Guide, Appendices, Booklet "Content Discs," Content Discs (CD-ROM), Mouse (PS/2), Mouse Pad, Power Cord, Short Pin
cop it relic! i just got the 8000 and couldn't be happier with it
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
still no snr mentioned anywhere ....
MarkN
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 55
Signal Processing: AD Conversion: 24 bits, 64 times oversampling, DA Conversion: 24 bits, 128 times oversampling
Sampling Frequency: 44.1 kHz (fixed) Maximum Polyphony 64 voices
is that what you were after ?
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
nah, snr...signal to noise ratio, i want a hot output from all my gear, the hotter the better but this is tied to its ad/da converters and bitrate. A 4k has 192/24 ad/da so its possible to gain a snr of about 120dB ( 144dB in theory, if im correct ), so an mv has 16bit/44khz which means its theoretical snr is about 98dB. This is a big however as a lot of 192/24 are hoaxes, there are 16bit ad/da which sounds better than a 24/192 which is a matter of the digital filter in your ad/da. Logicaly, you for such quality and you should look at lynx, apogee, etc. In all other cases I dont much believe a word of it, definitely on items like a MV8800I think its suspect considering you're supposed to master in the box so basicaly there's no feed to an external recorder. So if you do record on an external recorder and not on the mv ( mixing/mastering ) id suggest the 4k.
J Rilla
Tha Fresh Prince of L.A.
ill o.g.
Agreed.....Format, stop killing our high......
MarkN
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 55
yea no i cant see them having spent anything more than neccessary on the ad/da convertors as like you said everythings meant to be done in-house of the machine and burnt there and then.
seems like a nice machine but expensive and the problem with an all in one is theres always guna be something better at each stage !
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
^^ exactly, to me this machine is ideal for the noob with money to spend. cuz...
a) he didnt invest in good converters, whether that be a single ad/da unit or a good soundcard...Like always, when the dude says he's gonna eventualy pimp out his studio he gonna run into exactly those "upgrade" options and buy such a unit.
b) he'll then realise that summing in the box is not that clever since you bought this $4k multi I/O unit that summs your mix about a tenfold better with those latest plugins i got free with the new unit he bought. Guess what, its not really a grade a ad/da and it definitly sounds softer than the z4/z8/4k 'lil blabla dropped by last week when i just installed the new unit. The digital I/O sucks cuz you didnt buy an Apogee Big Ben. Damn, could've just sticked to the mv8000 cuz im all up in logic working midi.
You know, a lotta cats use such n such and the cats you look up to use it...and that, and that, and that. Its a lot of bs, the idea is nice indeed but anno 2007 it should give you more than an external gui to look at or a big screen.
Its all about them specs, snr...headroom..., so many cats talk low end theory and fail to recognize technical things you really should know first. Thats slow learning and an expensive way to figure it all out. Its the same with mics, you dont use expensive cables, and u87 and runn it through a behringer pre amp. Better invest than quickly spend a few buck, so if you have the money for this and got pimp gear already...buy a better sampler than this, even if it cuts breaks for you, spits out blunts and has the meaniest airbrush artwork...its still a 16bit/44khz sampler and so is a 50buck S2000 without a 300dollar dsp chip.
Good samplers with stunning sound...S1000/S1100/S3200xl/Akai Z engine /Emu e4xt/ Roland S750/770 all grade a converters ( all $10K samplers back in the day, xcept the z ), all the low end theory stuff, the rest is expensive converters, outboard and drumcomputers/workstation/daw. Good thing about hiphop, you dont need that much but its still a lot of money you really need to invest wisely.
a) he didnt invest in good converters, whether that be a single ad/da unit or a good soundcard...Like always, when the dude says he's gonna eventualy pimp out his studio he gonna run into exactly those "upgrade" options and buy such a unit.
b) he'll then realise that summing in the box is not that clever since you bought this $4k multi I/O unit that summs your mix about a tenfold better with those latest plugins i got free with the new unit he bought. Guess what, its not really a grade a ad/da and it definitly sounds softer than the z4/z8/4k 'lil blabla dropped by last week when i just installed the new unit. The digital I/O sucks cuz you didnt buy an Apogee Big Ben. Damn, could've just sticked to the mv8000 cuz im all up in logic working midi.
You know, a lotta cats use such n such and the cats you look up to use it...and that, and that, and that. Its a lot of bs, the idea is nice indeed but anno 2007 it should give you more than an external gui to look at or a big screen.
Its all about them specs, snr...headroom..., so many cats talk low end theory and fail to recognize technical things you really should know first. Thats slow learning and an expensive way to figure it all out. Its the same with mics, you dont use expensive cables, and u87 and runn it through a behringer pre amp. Better invest than quickly spend a few buck, so if you have the money for this and got pimp gear already...buy a better sampler than this, even if it cuts breaks for you, spits out blunts and has the meaniest airbrush artwork...its still a 16bit/44khz sampler and so is a 50buck S2000 without a 300dollar dsp chip.
Good samplers with stunning sound...S1000/S1100/S3200xl/Akai Z engine /Emu e4xt/ Roland S750/770 all grade a converters ( all $10K samplers back in the day, xcept the z ), all the low end theory stuff, the rest is expensive converters, outboard and drumcomputers/workstation/daw. Good thing about hiphop, you dont need that much but its still a lot of money you really need to invest wisely.
formant a lot of the stuff you mention is still new to me so i could use some advice. i'm in the beginning stages of putting together a commercial studio right now and the mv is going to be there along with a 4000. what should I get to get the best possible sound out of the MV? A big ben? we'll already have one of those for logic's other hardware hookups so that isn't a problem. do i need anything else? thanks man
LOL, YO!! Thats a lot of knowledge dropped there...
I was still on the "Nice Ad" aka commercial aspect.. Nice for pointing all that out..
You were right on the snr thing too, couldnt find anything on it at all...
O
open mind
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sorry for the dumb question but wtf is snr i got lots of snr on my SNARE folder lol just kiddin.
but seriously wtf do u mean when u say it dont has snr or shit like that.
but seriously wtf do u mean when u say it dont has snr or shit like that.
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
^^^ well, its you're own confort here. Would you use 3 seq/workstations? I'd slave an mpc to logic no doubt cuz it mainly drums, breaks n samples you're dealing with so you wont touch the mpc to play a fender chromaticaly spread. The same would go for the mv8800 I guess, correct me if im wrong but its not a motif, triton, etc even though it has a synthesys engine and has acid like tweaking action...its not why you bought it. You just want to sample and drop your own processing over it. I know its a shame akai doesnt upgrade its OS but on the other hand, a Z8 still records and plays any material you stuff in there at 24/96 which no other sampler does, except a daw sampler since it uses the daw's I/O. A Daw also has more memory to offer, both Z8/MV88 have a max of 512MB, would you consider needing more memory than you need to buy another sampler if you truly want to keep working with samplers. A different option like 2 Z8's would then be more plausable along a 4k or even a 2kxl.