Newbie Question

[Cano]

Allright everyone point and laugh now and get it over with,
Aiight I'm just a lil bit under 2 months into producing and so far been using only FL and I've seen dat a lot if not all of yiz gots Decks nd MPC's* etc. etc.

My Question/s iz :

() How important is it to get Decks and MPC's when starting producing and when would be the right time to purchase
() Is it better to start off with basic ones at the start and then get upgraded when you more experienced

() Wtf is an MPC?? :S

Help plz!!

 

[x-squizet]

ok a mpc is a sampler/drum machine, you sample your sounds in and play them out on the pads, its not that important if you want a mpc or decks or not i have heard beats from people that us fl or reason that make better beats than people that use mpc's so its pretty much the person behind the machine or software, and if you want to but a mpc you can if you think it will fit in your set up well like if you like playing your stuff out by ear and shit, go that route but if you want to sample get you a turntable and shit, but you can do most of the stuff in the mpc on software

i hope i helped

 

[Renegade Music]

well most may say dont get this or that just yet but I think why?like why would i buy a $100 mic and a $200 preamp for now?to get some shitty results?and spend more $$$ to upgrade fukk that im a get something that will do me for now and years to come,feel me?,but of course you dont wanna rush out to buy thing you may not want,like, or need...I do suggest you get turntable tho so you can sample...and if you dont all ready get a midi keyboard!

 

[Cano]

Thanx for help lads.
Yea I allready gots a MIDI keyboard but aint got it hooked up to my comp yet.
I might get into production a bit more b4 I start purchasin shit for sampling etc.
Thnx again!

 

[Retro]

You dont need decks and MPC's to be making dope beats. FL is perfectly capable (in the right hands).

 

[Carpe Diem]

^^^^*nod*

You dont need an MPC to crank out nice beats...

A good ear is needed tho...

 

[shadeed]

Allright everyone point and laugh now and get it over with,
Aiight I'm just a lil bit under 2 months into producing and so far been using only FL and I've seen dat a lot if not all of yiz gots Decks nd MPC's* etc. etc.

My Question/s iz :

() How important is it to get Decks and MPC's when starting producing and when would be the right time to purchase
() Is it better to start off with basic ones at the start and then get upgraded when you more experienced

() Wtf is an MPC?? :S

Help plz!!

I'm gonna break an unwritten hip hop law by saying you DON'T need an MPC or turntables to make good music. Most producers are deep-down dickriders,
meaning that they basically bought certain equipment (MPC, Triton, SP-1200's,Technics, Pro Tools) just because Pete Rock, Premo, or nowadays Lil Jon says that they use it.

Now to answer your questions:

1)How important is it to get Decks and MPC's when starting producing and when would be the right time to purchase?

It is not important to get decks and MPC's when starting producing. If you have FL, then you need to focus on the QUALITY of your drums and samples, I will say that you can find sounds on old records that are ill, but there are literally thousands of free samples on the internet, do a search for "free sounds" on illmuzik and you'll find plenty.
I say if you MUST have an MPC, then at least find out what kinda studio setup you wanna run and then find the best MPC for your needs.

2.)Is it better to start off with basic ones at the start and then get upgraded when you more experienced

With turntables, you might as well buy a good pair and then keep them, buying cheap stuff will only make you pay more in the end. With MPC, you can upgrade certain things like memory and the expansion board, but ideally--a smart shopper would try to buy one that is already upgraded.

Stick w/ the FL and learn how beats are constructed, and how to chop, loop, and edit make a couple hundred of beats, while doing your research on MPC's and turntables, don't buy nothin if you're not 100% sure.

 

[classic]

wait wait wait,

I agree with what alot yall are saying,
but dont MPC hate....

Who knows, the MPC may be good for u, its just a matter of research

The MPC was the first peace of beat making equiment i ever bought(a little over a year ago)
and it is the SHIT. I wouldent trade it for the world. It works perfect for the things that I want to do.

WIth that being said if u give me 2 weeks with any other hardware/or software sequincer(FL, cubase,logic,trition) I will be making the same beats im making on my MPC,

THe point is this, a sequncer is a sequncer , each has their benfits and downfalls but they all to the same thing, U gotta find what fits you. Thats the key.

If ur a good producer you a good producer, regardless of the tools u use to get your music out.

If it came down to it ,i could bang out tracks with 3 spoons and a cardboard box

class.....

 

[shadeed]

wait wait wait,
I agree with what alot yall are saying, but dont MPC hate....
Who knows, the MPC may be good for u, its just a matter of research
The MPC was the first peace of beat making equiment i ever bought
and it is the SHIT. I wouldent trade it for the world. It works perfect for the things that I want to do.
THe point is this, a sequncer is a sequncer, each has their benfits and downfalls but they wall to the same thing, U gotta find what fits you. Thats the key.
If ur a good producer you a good producer, regardless of the tools u use to get your music out. class.....

Oh, no MPC hate coming from me, the MPC 2k was the first piece of equipment I bought too, and it can definitely be the centerpiece of anybody's studio.
What does bother me is that most people DON'T do any research and shell out $500-1000 on a hardware sequencer based on another producer's preference, when they would probably be ok with a software sequencer and wav editor.
People need to get away from that MPC, Triton, Pro tools mentality and try the demos of some software sequencers to get the hang of producing.
I've seen so many people spend 1,000 bucks and up on all this gear and then call me and say, "Hey, what does this midi thing do???"

 

[Loose Cannon]

theres a FAQ page on www.illmuzik.com addressing most of this

 

[allenhighwaters]

yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out

 

[Steel Side]

It's a mater of personal preference and how you want your setup, as many are stating, but no one has addressed this point. mpc's, boards, consoles don't crash and get viruses. just remember that. What happens if you've been bangin out for 2 days to get somethin right then-blue screen of death or crash. everything gone. even if you back up, you'll be down a while if you caught a virus. yes they do exist. out

 

[eXampuL_oNe]

yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out

Fuckin Dumbass!!!

 

[sYgMa]

yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out

what the ?!

I dont do this normally, but I have to....

D-D-D-Dumbasss

A bunch of people here use Fruity. If you don't like it, that's you! If you prefer the MPC, that's you!...

Oh... what the hell, I was going to go into explanation... but I wont bother...

D-D-D-Dumbasss






Now... for the thread's question asked:

I think, since you just started making beats, you gotta figure out what path you want to take. Software or hardware?

Software are usually cheaper and you have a better view of what you're doing while making a beat. I mean, you have a whole computer screen to see what you're doing, while, on an MPC or most beatmachines, you only have a little screen 5 or 6 inches wide. Also, if you want to produce, you'll eventually need to use the computer for the final mixdown, so being accustomed with the computer right away could be nice ...

You could also use hardware. Normally, people who do like that you can actually have the real machine, being able to tweek everything with real buttons and knobs, not have to use the mouse... etc... Actually, I'm a sofware user, so I never really asked myself what i would gain from hardware...

And there is the 3rd choice. using both hardware and software...

The real answer to your question is that you need to experiment both to have an idea of what you prefer. Go to a music equipment store (where you would find an MPC) and ask to try it out a little on site, or to have a demo of what it does... and do the same with fruity... that way, you'll get an idea of what you prefer.

 

[Sin:Aesthetic]

yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out

such brilliant argument put forward, its amazing the rationale you have to prove this statement...what amazes me is that you kept your hands from scraping along the ground for long enough to type 20+ posts

 

[Big Tone]

yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out

fuckin dumbass

 

[Agent Smith]

not to press my personal opinion as fact (e.g. "yo, get the mpc. fl sucks and I'm out") but i think having a hybrod pf hardware and software gives you the most freedom. this blends the best of both worlds...but i agree with everyone for the most part...it depends on how the creativity flows out of you...if you are a really visual producer, i would suggest going the software route. the most visual you can get on hardware is a roland fantom x (i use that because i like the blend of hardware strength with the sequencer its got on there with that fresh little color screen). things like reason and fl give you the ability to just grab shit and move it around and it makes rearranging beats so much easier. with hardware you have to dump the final product onto your computer where as with software its a simple export.

the most important thing is do your homework on this...go to guitar center or wherever and mess with all the shit they have there...download demo's of software and all the other stuff that i am basically repeating from previous posts (hah sorry)

hope this helps