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I like most of what you said except that Saddam made Iraq better for Iraqi people..
Cuz he didnt...lol, ask the Kurds and the Shiites..Or anyone who made him paranoid, or any woman that one of his sons would kidnap rape then cut to bits and feed to their dogs...
Those Iraqis might disagree as I do on that.. But the rest sounds good..

Iraq was a religiously tolerant society, it had the highest number of females in the region in education, to a high standard. Saddam although brutal(he was cia after all), managed to unite the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds under the united flag of Iraq. Iraq had good hospitals, and good universities, Great Museums. He was an ally of the west. The first gulf war was launched after Saddam was set up, he asked the us if he could invade kuwait as they had been cross drilling into iraq and stealing iraqs oil, the us gave him the go ahead. So he went ahead. Then a princess, yes a princess, faked a scene in a hospital saying iraqi troops came and just left the babies on the floor. Next thing you know its gulf war 1.
Just because you see the world through US media, a terrible source of real knowledge, why are the americans so much like sheep, why do they rush to be patriotic at times of dismay, and then have their patriotism used against them, to guide their opinions and make them choose a certain way before they are even given the choice.
When your bosses are the cia and you cross them, you get paranoid quickly. The cia doesnt hesitate in killing those it disagrees with, there was numerous attempts on saddams life, wouldnt you get paranoid?
I have heard rumours about what the bush's get up to in there spare time, and seen evidence of what other associates of very high members of government have been found guilty of and punished for. Look into the whole larry king paedo ring, that went to the white house, and im talking about the sexual abuse and torture of children, by members of your government. Face the reality, because its a reality. When you are a member of the big boys club, they do these things for fun.
 

manguino

Pressure Makes Diamonds
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 7
Iraq was a religiously tolerant society, it had the highest number of females in the region in education, to a high standard. Saddam although brutal(he was cia after all), managed to unite the Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds under the united flag of Iraq. Iraq had good hospitals, and good universities, Great Museums.

Coming from a first world western nation, it's easy for us to critique and disect a country so culturally different from our way of thinking, that it may be offensive to go as far as to defend Saddam whole heartedly. Free Western nations have the right to choose for our leaders while they were stuck in a dictator run government.

I do agree on many of your points though
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
Wait, lol, I have alot to respond to there 2good..your my bestest british buddy no lie..
Since Saddam, Iraq was NEVER a religiously tolerant society.Tolerant like the US tolerated Japanese americans in the 40's! lol
But in regards to saddam, are you saying that when he took power that he did not systematically go thru Iraqs congress on TV and weed out those who opposed him and have them killed until the remaining people in the room would do nothing but praise him out of fear??(broadcast Live no less, good move there!)
Seriously, I know WHY we were supporting him , but the guy WAS vile..
The whole Fam was psychotic..

In retrospect apparently thats what it takes to control Iraq, because I prolly believe in Iraqis more than they do themselves since they seem to be REAL interested in killing each other in droves.

AND he didnt unite anything..he crushed whatever posed a threat..
Thus forcing you(not YOU but the average Hassam) to shut the fuck up about him...
The Arabs have an interesting and brutal and older history than the US , who, she is just now getting breasts..
HEY nice tits!


Anybody here in the US remember the propaganda the THE HISTORY CHANNEL FOR GODS SAKE was running prior to invading Iraq this time??
I knew when I was watching it, it was prop, but it was good show!
They forgot to mention all the history of Iraq and how it was stablizing the region brutal or not...I knew when it wasnt actually giving stratigic history that it was propaganda..
Thanks Fade for letting us talk about this too!

Dont know shit about the princess thing but females in that society only hold convieniant titles and respect when it comes to war , they keep them covered, I figure they must be fine as hell then since Ive barely seen any lol..
They give a fuck about the women unless they give a fuck about the women..(for whatever reason)
The US media has let me down , I come from a radio news broadcast family (check out the illmuzik radio!! lol) , my dad is a dude who won awards for that shit...
I remember when he came home and had QUIT, yes fucking QUIT, because he said they arent interested in the news anymore they want ratings....

Older now that makes sense..
What ?
"It", controversey(911/war), creates viewers which spurs advertising which= money..
He with wisdom reckons and I am Waaaaay disappointed by US media..
They burned out(sold out) after Vietnam..
Speaking of..anybody see "W" said the other day that if we had stayed in Nam we woulda won?? LOLOLOLOL
He only went there for the first time like 2 years ago...
Gents lets not forget that this war is brought to you by THE SAME PEOPLE who brought you Nam ..GO look it up..All the players..Kissanger actually goes to the White House pretty frequently..no lie.

Anyway , Saddam , like alot of African leaders, was a serious asshole who killed alot of his people, and honestly we can know all this but it aint gonna change jack shit..
Why arent we in Darfur?

Oh and I praise Britian for being in this shit with us , but I have noticed that even they aint tryin to keep fuckin around in Iraq..understandably , I hate bush for callin in the cards for his own personal gain..
If France decided (as an odd example) to invade Britain tommorow Id join to stop that..yall are cousins..
I would only hope that the netherlands would supply the weed..


In the end of this paticular post Ill just say that I respect ALL the soldiers who went to do these deeds..
I dont care how many people you killed, hell, you were trained to do so , good job!
Sorry ,less than you Im sure, for some being civilians...
I love these guys they are badass somebitches and I support all VA shit...
Why do you make people break the first commandment then leave them sitting in a pool of they own shit?? smh..
 
Coming from a first world western nation, it's easy for us to critique and disect a country so culturally different from our way of thinking, that it may be offensive to go as far as to defend Saddam whole heartedly. Free Western nations have the right to choose for our leaders while they were stuck in a dictator run government.

I do agree on many of your points though

Please dont get me wrong, Im in no way defending Saddam whole heartedly, I agree he was a tyrant. And he ruled with an iron fist, taking out those that disagreed with him. But all the while he was doing this, he had 100% support by the west. It was only after he crossed daddy bush, however he did it, that all the things he did while an ally became news. He was punished for crimes committed while he was an ally. And for crushing a sunni uprising that was started by the americans who promised support for them and then just turned their backs and left the poor sunnis to their horrible fate. As for the gassing of the kurds, that was done with US/UK supplied bioweapons, our leaders at the time they were sold to saddam are as much to blame as saddam himself.
Anyone seen the pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with saddam? He was the main middleman who sold the weapons to him I beleive. And as Relic said, yes its the same gang that brought us Nam. They beleive in wars without end because they all have stocks in weapons manufacture, and other related stocks, ie steel, leather, etc. If the war ends so does their profit. I was sort of playing devils advocate myself when defending saddam. One thing is certain, Iraq was a much better place before we destroyed what had been acheived there. And lets not forget that iraq is the birthplace of civilisation. Ancient Sumeria is now called Iraq, this also includes babylon that Saddam was trying to rebuild, he thought he was the reincarnation of Nebbukanezza or however that is spelt. Id say that was a deluded mind. And I would have to be pretty deluded to defend a tyrant, it was our leaders that made him what he was, but how many of them have been held to account? None I beleive.
 

skidflow

Boom Bap is precious art
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 220
The real enemy is those who control the currency. The IRS, big bankers and whatnot that have politicians in there pocket. These powerful people basically fund these politicians in return for certain bills and laws passed that only benifit them. Most people are just content with there situation because they feel comfy and cozy. They feel the need to be led like sheep. I feel that voting is bullshit but its the only game THEY left us to play and as long as we are playing THERE game there is no way the people can win.
 
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Fucking word!! I blame the shit in our foods and the selfishness that it spoonfed to us through the mass media. And if you aint been brainwashed then your too busy trying to pay the bills to worry about anything else. How have we sunk so low in my lifetime. If im not mistaken its was the western intelligence services that put the ayatollah in place in Iran in the first place, we have always had our fingers in the middle east pie. We have always supported dictators as long as they sing to our tune.

Very well said. There is so many angles to this story i oculd write a article msyelf about it, this subject is so deep.
 
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