Music Theory help...

[Iron Keys]

Trying to teach myself piano/guitar (more focussed on piano right now), and I'm having a lot of confusion around how to figure out what chords go in what key.

So for example, in the key of A minor(etc), how do I work out what chords go in it???

Must all the chords only use notes that appear in the A minor scale?

A little help here could go a long way...

Much love

 

[Fade]

I can't answer that directly but I can get you started, don't forget about the Resources section: https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54

I remember there were discussions a while ago about this.

 

[Iron Keys]

Thanks. I've read for what I looking for, in someone's weekly piano lesson thread.

But using that/the website they linked. It still doesn't make sense to me.

It's to my understanding that the key/scale of A minor has these notes; A,B,C,D,E,F#,G#,A so I'd imagine the chords have to consist of notes that land on only notes included within that!?!? But the site seems to say A minor is all white keys, the same as C major ... but surely this is just the key of C major ?!!?

This is where I'm really confused.

 

[Sucio]

uploading some material for you as we speak, hope it helps.


http://www.zshare.net/download/986860385475299a/

 

[Iron Keys]

Much appreciated, brother! Mad love

 

[LouBez]

If you start on C and use only white keys thats C Major...If you start on A and use onlu white keys thats A minor...and if you start on D and use only white keys thats D Dorian...

What I did to learn scales quickly was I took a long strip of masking tape spanning 3 octaves on my key board, then starting on C I wrote 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 above each of the white keys...Doing that lets you see what notes are in the scale, then when you look up some basic chord progressions you can practice easy...so say for a progression like 1-6-4-5 all you have to do is play this:

Notes:
1,3,5. Chord 1
6,1,3. Chord 6
4,6,1. Chord 4
5,7,2. Chord 5

See, using this method to build chords is super easy cause all you have to do is start with your root note skip a note to find your third then from there skip another note and you got your fifth!

To take it further once you have your tape labeled if you want to change the scale just pick it up and re apply it so that the 1 is above the key you want to play in, it will really work in every key, the same goes for the minor and the dorian...


Have fun bro!

 

[Iron Keys]

Mad love, LouB

I think wherever I was looking gave me the A 'harmonic' minor.

Question though, seeing as A-minor contains the same notes as C-Major, what makes them any different? For example, if you was playing in the key of Aminor/Cmajor ???

Maybe a void/spastic question, still trying to get my head round it fully, getting there, slowly. But surely (I hope!)

 

[Knox Raw]

Mad love, LouB

I think wherever I was looking gave me the A 'harmonic' minor.

Question though, seeing as A-minor contains the same notes as C-Major, what makes them any different? For example, if you was playing in the key of Aminor/Cmajor ???

Maybe a void/spastic question, still trying to get my head round it fully, getting there, slowly. But surely (I hope!)

Their all the same keys but they are sonically different. It all depends on the feel you're going for. Think Major=happy ,Minor=Dark ,Dorian=Exotic. I may be wrong though. Feel free to correct me ya'll.

 

[LouBez]

Just play em and you'll see...scales are all about the relationship to the root note...

An easy way to get a frame of refrence is to play that chord progression I gave you in those three different scales and see how each makes you feel.

 

[dacalion]

Mad love, LouB

I think wherever I was looking gave me the A 'harmonic' minor.

Question though, seeing as A-minor contains the same notes as C-Major, what makes them any different? For example, if you was playing in the key of Aminor/Cmajor ???

Maybe a void/spastic question, still trying to get my head round it fully, getting there, slowly. But surely (I hope!)

The only difference is in the chord progressions...A flat is the relative minor of C major...C sharp major is the relative minor of B flat.

 

[Iron Keys]

Thanks, brethren!

Is there anywhere I could grab a pdf booklet of all the scales/keys etc anywhere? It'd be immensely handy. As it seems the source I've been using has been somewhat unreliable.

 

[LouBez]

Read what i wrote about the masking tape...thats three modes you can use for any key!