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sublimeCold Truth said:
sYgMa
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I know a bunch of reggae artists that dont have and accent, unfortunately, they sing in french...
Thing is, when I said that he did it for sales, you're right, I'm assuming he did...BUT like you said, when he sings with his natural accent, it doesn't sound right AND he chose a song where he fakes a Jamaican as his single. It's not undeniable proof, but you gotta ask yourself anyways...
My GUESS is:
-He chose a Jamaican accent because he wanted to sound like a standard reggaeman.
-He wants to sound like a standard reggaeman because reggae fans like it when reggae sounds like reggae.
-He probably also know that he could have radio play if he did have a standard sound...
Again, I know it's a guess... He had the choice between his accent and faking a Jamaican accent... if it wasnt to enter in the standard sound of reggae... why do it then?
Thing is, when I said that he did it for sales, you're right, I'm assuming he did...BUT like you said, when he sings with his natural accent, it doesn't sound right AND he chose a song where he fakes a Jamaican as his single. It's not undeniable proof, but you gotta ask yourself anyways...
My GUESS is:
-He chose a Jamaican accent because he wanted to sound like a standard reggaeman.
-He wants to sound like a standard reggaeman because reggae fans like it when reggae sounds like reggae.
-He probably also know that he could have radio play if he did have a standard sound...
Again, I know it's a guess... He had the choice between his accent and faking a Jamaican accent... if it wasnt to enter in the standard sound of reggae... why do it then?
Cold Truth said:
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ahhhhh, come on, its not like he read about parallels in a book and started doing songs after. he found them later and uses them now to justify. i have to agree with the others, faking an accent is wack as shit.
no matter how good you are... you know that gentleman guy from germany ? he does realy good popsongs, discostuff, and i like to dance to them with my girl. but i always have to smile a bit listening to him. because i know he is making up that style.
those people seem to start convincing themselves to be from an carribean island after a while lol, like i know this guy from my old hood, hes pale white like a piece of bleeched paper, the last time he saw a beach was like spain '97, but hes got that jah-tattoos all over him and even talks like he was alien or something. malibus most wanted, thats what i call him
truth you cant blame nobody for hating on it, because its UNREAL in the nearest sense of the expression.
you can do that when your 16, like we did rap in english back in the days with my boys, writing lyrics as if we were "straight outta compton".
my 2 cents
sYgMa
Making head bangers!!!
ill o.g.
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mik-p said:those people seem to start convincing themselves to be from an carribean island after a while lol, like i know this guy from my old hood, hes pale white like a piece of bleeched paper, the last time he saw a beach was like spain '97, but hes got that jah-tattoos all over him and even talks like he was alien or something. malibus most wanted, thats what i call him
I missed a part here... you know the guy? Matisyahu... or you're talking about one of your friends...
Pug
IllMuzik Mortician
Moderator
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Honestly, I really don't think it's his voice that got him to where he is. The fact is, the media really helped boost his popularity. He's been on all the talks shows, toured with big named bands, the whole nine. His voice may be a gimmick, but he's not doing anything to tarnish the reggae scene. So why fuss over it?
FTdub
SP1200 manhandler
ill o.g.
Most of the songs off of Youth are produced by Bill Laswell, and that's reason enough to buy the album. I could see dicrediting Mat if his accent/voice/whatever missed the mark set forth by reggae pioneers, but its on point. He is respectful of reggae tenets and that is why he has not been dismissed by fans. Some artists say the same stuff but in a new way, he says new stuff in a traditional way.
Elementree
Musical Wizardry
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If anybody knows about this stupid fag its me,
Everyday I get calls from friends and aquaintences telling me that my bands on the radio. I tell them that theyre fuckin crazy and what the've probobly heard is a fake we like to call matisyahu. I've been to Jamaica twice and Ive loved all types of jamaican music since I was about 10. People say I sound alot like Matisyahu when I sing but I say fuck that. I sing from my soul so occasionally a jamaican accent comes out in my singing. it doesnt help that both of my roomates are jamaican and half my school is as well!! However my bands music is respected by reggae artists everywhere because I dont have a fuckin GIMMICK like this fag. If I dressed up like a jew I'd prolly be rich right now too. basically Ive seen him live and everyone I came with agreed with me that his flow is wack and I could crush him lyrically. We even got offered to open for him but we refused. He's FAKE guys, sorry
IF you want real reggae.... listen to Sizzla, Capleton, Supercat, Bob Marley, ect....
and check out my lyrical styles if you want to see how people think somehow I sound like this guy....I personally know I'm better.
www.myspace.com/ohms My Band THE OHMS- a blend of reggae,funk,soul,hip hop, and some other shit
peace yall
Tree
Everyday I get calls from friends and aquaintences telling me that my bands on the radio. I tell them that theyre fuckin crazy and what the've probobly heard is a fake we like to call matisyahu. I've been to Jamaica twice and Ive loved all types of jamaican music since I was about 10. People say I sound alot like Matisyahu when I sing but I say fuck that. I sing from my soul so occasionally a jamaican accent comes out in my singing. it doesnt help that both of my roomates are jamaican and half my school is as well!! However my bands music is respected by reggae artists everywhere because I dont have a fuckin GIMMICK like this fag. If I dressed up like a jew I'd prolly be rich right now too. basically Ive seen him live and everyone I came with agreed with me that his flow is wack and I could crush him lyrically. We even got offered to open for him but we refused. He's FAKE guys, sorry
IF you want real reggae.... listen to Sizzla, Capleton, Supercat, Bob Marley, ect....
and check out my lyrical styles if you want to see how people think somehow I sound like this guy....I personally know I'm better.
www.myspace.com/ohms My Band THE OHMS- a blend of reggae,funk,soul,hip hop, and some other shit
peace yall
Tree
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The Bastard
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he doesnt suck cuz he dresses up like like a jew bro. thats prolly the onlyreason i might have al ittle respect for him. hes a jew,so dressing in his traditional jewish clothing is a noble thing to do, however, fakin an accent (like you say you do) is ridiculous.theres a culture,and a way of life behind that accent. one that him or you dont know anything about ,no matter how many people in your school are jamaican.no offense.....Elementree said:
Benny BuKu
BAD NEWS
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The Bastard said:
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I like how he says "no offense".....lol
I aint got nothin else to say on this except "Jewggaeton" is the new craze in hip hop....it's sweeping the nation!
sYgMa
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ill o.g.
Battle Points: 26
Yo... If I put a line or two in my beats with a reggae slang, that's not fake, that's adding a lil flave to a beat. Singing a whole song... well, all right... that's a concept... but doing a bunch of beats with a reggae accent when it's not your real accent, that's just faking it!... whether it's a gimmick or not is something else, even if I think it is, personaly.
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LMAO. CANT BE ANY WORSE THAN RAGGAETONBenny BuKu said:
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
alpha blondie, eek-a-mouse....everyday coffeeshop music
Benny BuKu
BAD NEWS
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The Bastard said:
Not yet anyway.......but soon.
Elementree
Musical Wizardry
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 8
im not fakin shit thats the thing. I speak full jamaican patois and theres nothing wrong with that. The jamaican folk respect me and people like my music so I dont think im fakin it. It comes from my heart, i dont have to TRY to sing like that, its just how I sing.
FistFulloDollaz
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
Elementree said:
just curious
how long have u been able to speak jamaican patois and sing with the accent?
The only thing I heard this guy do is like a dance hall thing.
Thats not "Reggae" to me. Thats Dance hall.
He should stick to dancehall I was trippin on that.
A gimmick? Yeah probably,he must actually be orthodox though because he wouldve been"crucified" in the jewish community if he wasnt.
Every damn body has a gimmick though. Right now its mostly who's the baddest gangsta.
I feel you though Tree, that would make me hate 'em!
I cant hate on him I mean he's doin his thing, he can do that dancehall shit.
I like to flip my flow up and drop that type of shit in it.
I was doin that a long time ago but I wasnt really tryin to sound jamaican just how the lyrics flipped on the beat.
Just got back from Jamaica actually.
Thats a real nice island, the people are cool but the cops are crucial.
Thats not "Reggae" to me. Thats Dance hall.
He should stick to dancehall I was trippin on that.
A gimmick? Yeah probably,he must actually be orthodox though because he wouldve been"crucified" in the jewish community if he wasnt.
Every damn body has a gimmick though. Right now its mostly who's the baddest gangsta.
I feel you though Tree, that would make me hate 'em!
I cant hate on him I mean he's doin his thing, he can do that dancehall shit.
I like to flip my flow up and drop that type of shit in it.
I was doin that a long time ago but I wasnt really tryin to sound jamaican just how the lyrics flipped on the beat.
Just got back from Jamaica actually.
Thats a real nice island, the people are cool but the cops are crucial.
Elementree
Musical Wizardry
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Battle Points: 8
FistFulloDollaz said:
since i was ten years old. Ive been to jamaica so its always been a huge influence to me. It took me about two years to speak patois fluently. Then I just started singing and playing guitar and all i listened to was reggae and dancehall. I just started singing and the patoius came naturally to me