makin bangers

[The Bastard]

aright i been makin beats for a little longer than a year now ,ive made all types of beats,concept beats ,beats wit brass,slow beats, club beats,slow guitar beats ,but ive only made one hard hitting banger beat and that was wit fruity loops, ive been diggin for records for a few months now and i still havent picked up on what type of records to buy to get sum hard hitting samples ,any help peoples?

 

[Equality 7-2521]

try a hard hitting instrument. ie piano. piano in the low keys is dark and hard hitting. your not gonna make a hard hitting beat with an xzylophone ya dig.

 

[The Bastard]

word,so whut u suggest, piano records?

 

[classic]

Hmmmmm
This is kinda and objective question, What do you consider a banger?? Im pretty sure that you have some good stuff that the right people havent heard. Its hard to specifically make one type of beat.


But.....
Im gonna assume by banger you mean and instense beat.
I guess start with some very hitting drums. Layer the snars and the kicks atleast 3 or 4 times to give them avery full sound. Once those drums are layed start with a simplecmedlody. (you can do the mel first also). In my opionion They key to a "banger" or any pumping beat is to get the meldoy to entertwine and fit with the drums. THis is something i can really explain its just something i "feel". I get a gut feeling when im on the right path(i think dre gets the same thing lol). Once thats done all you gotta to is fill in the track with more percussion (congo's etc...) and maybe add a bridge. Its all about grabbing and aggressive emotion and putting it on the track. Thats my method for making "bangers"

class......

 

[Loose Cannon]

WU,

I dont know what you do when you start a beat, but im different from a lotta people on here. I dont start with drums first. I find my main samples i wanna use, then i make the drums following the emotion of the samples. So im usually always lookin for the right sample on a record cuz thats the basis for my beat.

How often do you go and get some records? I go about 3-4 times a week. I mostly end up with maybe 4 records. Sometimes i end up with none. Sometimes if i find a good deal ill end up with 8. The more you buy records, the more your gonna realize: Oh Shit, im lovin this Jonny Mathis record, next time i go im gonna look for another album form him (And store that somewhere inside your head). Damn, this record was a waste of money. These people are too new. There already usin keyboards and shit and its too saturated to be usin a sample form them (store that in your head).

So after a while of buyin records and shit you can start to build up what kind of style you see that your into. Maybe you noticed that you keep on endin up with good samples James Taylor or somethin, so you know thats one of the records you wanna get next time your there, cuz it probly has somethin your feelin.


But if you dont have a diggin addiction, the best thing (imo) that you could do is to go to Goodwill or Salvation Army ($0.95each) and get a bunch of records. Dont say: "Well i dont know if these people are gonna have good samples on there album" Cuz some of my best samples come from albums i randomly picked.


Its like sayin "I wanna get into hip-hop. who are some good people i would like?" Its all opinion there isnt (that i know of) an officially good sampling record.

 

[G-French]

I think the first thing you should look for is some good drums. Your drums will make or break your beat.

 

[SiN]

actually for those dramatic, banger type beats i usually find better material in those kinda cheesy records that never really made it great by themselves back in the day. when you sample that kinda shit for hip hop beats tho, it works.

 

[AMG]

word,so whut u suggest, piano records?

Ahmad Jamal...he's a Jazz Pianist.

 

[Shwaz]

Buy some House records and sample that. The drum kits used in House will bang a lot more then most used in Hip-hop.

 

[erkl]

try some Cameo records

back back forth forth

 

[StressWon]

Buy some House records and sample that. The drum kits used in House will bang a lot more then most used in Hip-hop.

Werd, I like that reply!!! I be doin that sometimes. I got mad House drum kits and I be rockin some kicks off there to get a hard beat! Also Layer the drums,,,,,gotta layer the drums!

 

[berserk]

cymbals... and bass... on top of the drums... a reverby snare... thats how i do...

 

[Qwerty]

WU,

I dont know what you do when you start a beat, but im different from a lotta people on here. I dont start with drums first. I find my main samples i wanna use, then i make the drums following the emotion of the samples. So im usually always lookin for the right sample on a record cuz thats the basis for my beat.

I agree with you on putting the main sample then the drum, then the extra. Cuz really, to me it doesn't make sense to make a drum then a sample, becauselike you said a drum is suppose to had emotion the the sample and follow it.

 

[RigorMortis]

it can go both ways.. you can build drums around a melody or build a melody around a drums, just what the day makes of it..

 

[Loose Cannon]

it can go both ways.. you can build drums around a melody or build a melody around a drums, just what the day makes of it..

Exactly. Rigor always sums up in a sentence what takes me a couple paragraphs to explain.

But its just like your style of music. Its all preference. We dont need to start an argument about this cuz this is an opinion shit.


But im glad Rigor and Qwerty understand what i mean though.

 

[benny beatz]

Personally, I think that a beat sounds better when you build the drums after establishing a melody. Thats a more organic sound I think... more chill, laid back and correct most of the time... I'm not really familiar with your style or anything or what you even really like, but when you talk about a banger, that sounds to me like a club type beat, and I think often times producers of those begin with a "bangin" drum pattern and complement the drums with some kind of melody... I think it is often times harder to make a really dope sounding track like this... But I've done it... These days I am rarely so impressed by a drum pattern that I feel that I have to build a melody around it. I'd rather fuck around on the keys and come up with a melody that gets me high. A dope melody is gold, makin the drums is the fun part once you get the melody down...

Interestingly enough, the last beat I made I actually started out with the drums...

Compare "July 12" to the rest of my recent beats and see if you are able to tell a difference... I felt like that drum pattern was pretty dope, I had used a somewhat similar pattern in an old beat I made and i just took it in another direction.

www.soundclick.com/bennybeatz

 

[The Bastard]

i always lay a basic drum beat first jus so i know when to punch the samples in then ill add more drums and percussion to fit the samples,ive never ever layed a sample first then drums,seems ass backwards

 

[massikrbeats]

I usually try to cop some hot latin CDs with little vocals. I tend to pick up some sweet guitar riffs from it every now and then. I don't think there's a particular sound you need to find that's "hard" besides some low piano samples cuz you can damn near make anything sound gangsta if you work wit it.

HolLa