JAY Z/ R. Kelly

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jaydub23510

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By now I know ya'll heard about the lil situation going on with these two, tell me who would you rather see perform. I've seen both of these guys perform and they are excellent performers!! It's wild it had to come to JAY-Z peoples holding a gun in front of R.Kelly like get the fuck off the stage!
 

Tim D

Bitchn' Bout IRS
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here u go Big D


Jay-Z and R. Kelly's Best of Both Worlds tour has officially imploded again. And if you listen to Jay, the highly hyped tour is over.

The tour hit New York's Madison Square Garden Friday night for the first of three shows (the duo performed without incident on Thursday at Long Island's Nassau Coliseum and are scheduled to hit New Jersey's Meadowlands Arena on Sunday). However, the shocker was that thousands were left disappointed as R. Kelly abruptly bolted the show, claiming that his life was jeopardy.

Kelly told the crowd that while he was trying to perform, "two people were waving guns at me," and declined to perform further. Shortly after, Jay told the crowd "I don't need that n---a," and, accompanied by Mary J. Blige, Usher and Ja Rule, delivered a hit-filled set.

In separate interviews on New York radio station Hot 97 early Saturday morning, Jay called Kelly's actions "foolery" and said that the "insecure" Kelly was jealous of the crowds' love for Jay; Kelly admitted that he panicked and claimed that when he was about to return to the stage, he and members of his entourage were pepper-sprayed by unknown assailants. He added that he would be at the Garden, ready to perform for Saturday night's show.

As of early Saturday afternoon (October 30), personnel at Madison Square Garden's box office were uncertain as to whether the evening's concert would take place.

Friday's show started normally, with the two headliners rocking the stage together during the first set. Shortly after, Jay-Z came back with his solo set, followed by one from Kelly. The show then went back to Jay's hand with another Jiggaman set.

The Garden was alive as Jay and Kells used two distinct plans of attack. Jay rocked the crowd with street goliaths like "Give It to Me," "U Don't Know" and "Big Pimpin'," while Kelly crooned his bedroom hymns like "Your Body's Calling" and "Feelin' On Yo Booty," where he amused everyone by singing "Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooootttttttteeeeeeee."

Just before the R's second solo set was to begin, Kelly, dressed in the same black-and-white vest he donned on the cover of his 12 Play LP, came out on stage and began talking somberly. It sounded like he was holding back tears. He told the audience that he was originally going to send security out to relay a message to the crowd. He thanked his fans for their support, then said he was about to do one of the "hardest" things he ever had to do.

He said that while he was trying to perform, "two people were waving guns at me." As the bewildered Garden audience looked on, Kelly said, "I can't do no show like that ... This sh-- is over." Kelly then dropped his microphone and walked off the stage.

After several perplexing minutes, Jay yelled from backstage, "F--- that! I got this sh-- myself, New York. Give me my old-school sh--! I got hits."

With fans yelling "Hova!" Jigga came out with Memphis Bleek and continued the concert. He rocked the crowd with verses from Mya's "Best of Me" remix then went into "Ain't No N---a." The song's co-star, Foxy Brown, came out for a surprise guest spot that was met with a loud roar.

"New York City — y'all got me?" Jay then asked the crowd and started into "Where I'm From." From there it was Jay-Z overdrive, as the King of Brooklyn kept the people on their feet with "Heart of the City" and "Encore."

"Ho-va! Ho-va! Ho-va!" the fans kept yelling as the latter record was coming to a close.

"I got some good news and bad news," Jigga told the crowd as they simmered down. "R. Kelly is not coming back. If y'all waiting to see him, go home. The good news is that I got a lot of records — and I got y'all."

He then asked for a few minutes to put a show together.

"OK, I got it together," Jay's voice emerged after the break. "I promise you you're gonna love it. I found a couple of people and sh--."

The first of Jay's 11th-hour guest performers joined him. Ja Rule came out in a gray hoodie for "Can I Get A ..." It felt like 1998 again as Ja came out with that passionate roar, rapping to cheers.

After the next jam, "Excuse Me Miss," Mary J. Blige came out with Hov for "Can't Knock the Hustle." MJB, who has a rep for astounding crowds with her soulful lung power, seemed to be putting a little extra stank on it, even making Jay-Z say "got-damn!" before hugging her.

The two superstars also paired up for "Song Cry," like they did almost a year ago at Jay's "farewell" Madison Square Garden concert.

"I don't need that n---a!" Jay said about Kelly as Mary left stage Friday night. "I got y'all. Y'all ain't gonna miss him for one second. Y'all gonna go home thoroughly entertained."

Then Usher, who some fans had been screaming for when Kelly made his startling announcement, came out for "Caught Up." The singer had come to the show as a spectator.

"This is for the big homie," Usher said while he was singing.

"I got something special for New York, and I got something special for you [Jay]," Usher said after an a capella rendition of his "Confessions" remix. "You know we should have done this together."

The chart-topper then sang "Throwback."

There was an intermission — during what would have been another Kelly set — and then Jay came back on with a few more surprises. Memphis Bleek and T.I. performed "Round Here," then Tip went into "Rubber Band Man."

Freeway and the Young Gunz came out with Jay and Bleek towards the end of the show and did some of their Roc-A-Fella familia hits to close out.

"I did the best I could," Jay told the crowd. "I love each and every one of y'all."

As the fans filed out of Madison Square Garden, you could hear the disgust in their voices. One woman said she was going to throw all of her Kelly CDs away.

Both Jay and Kelly talked to New York's Hot 97 early Saturday morning, after the show. "Is that not absolutely bonkers?" an angry Jay said about Kelly's gun theory, calling the story "foolery."

"Ridiculous," he scoffed. "That's Madison Square Garden. You cannot get a gun in Madison Square Garden. Does he know where he's at?"

Jay also admitted that he had been lying when he publicly denied that he and Kelly have been having problems on the tour. Jay portrayed the R. as an insecure egomaniac and said that the circle of yes-men surrounding the singer are "ruining him."

"He has problems with the love people give me," Jay told Hot 97 radio personality Angie Martinez. "He's insecure with himself."

Hova then told listeners that shows in Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Chicago and St. Louis were extremely late in starting, not completed or cancelled altogether because of the R.

"It's not the lights," Jay said, shooting down a theory that Kelly was canceling shows due to technical difficulties with the lighting. "This is Madison Square Garden — come on, New York City. He don't love New York? He can't say that."

Thursday afternoon, Jay expressed to MTV News the frustration he's felt over the cancellations.

"It's very frustrating to cancel shows," Hov lamented. "Because I wanna see every single person. I don’t want somebody to be holding their ticket for 29 days and on the 30th day it gets cancelled. But [the tour] is living up to my expectations when I get out there and I see people and connect with people. I'm like, 'This is the reason I'm here.' When I first step off the bus and I turn that corner and they throwing up Roc signs, I'm like, 'This is why I'm here.' "

After Jay-Z had left Hot 97, R. Kelly made his way to the station to give his side of the story.

"I'm here for my fans, I'm not here for Jay," he told Martinez. The Pied Piper denied the Jay's clam that he was skipping out on shows because of his ego, claiming that prior to the NYC show, he was having problems with his lighting crew.

"I love performing, I'm very secure [with] who I am," Kelly calmly stated. "I have no motive, no reason to be jealous of Jay-Z. I'm a fan of Jay, I'm gonna always be a fan of Jay. Tonight had nothing to do with Jay getting the better response. I'm 15 years deep in this game, I know what Jay is at home. I expected Jay to rip down the Garden."

The singer retold his accounts of what happened in the night. He said he received a threatening phone call prior to arriving to the Garden, and said that during his first joint set with Jay, he saw a man a few rows from the stage give him a threatening gesture.

"Dude opened up his coat — I can't say dude had a gun, I don't know what I saw," Kelly said. Whatever he saw had him on guard. When Kelly returned for his solo set, he saw another guy in the bleachers opening his coat, gesturing like he had pistol as well. Kelly admitted he couldn't say for sure if the other man had a gun, but the events left him distraught.

Kelly, who is traveling with his wife and children, said he went backstage and cried. The singer admitted to panicking, but did not want risk himself.

"I wasn't going to take any chances when I saw what I saw. I'm not crazy," Kelly said.

Shortly after, however, the promoter of the show did convince the R. that he could safely finish the concert. According to the singer, extra police were sent into the crowd.

Kelly then claimed that when he was returning to the stage, he and members of his entourage were pepper-sprayed. The singer would not say who sprayed him.

Kelly said he was rushed to a New York hospital and received treatment.

As for Jay's claims about delays and cancellations in previous shows, Kelly responded by saying that he had technical difficulties.

"When you are perfectionist and like to put 100 percent in the show and you put a million-and-a-half [dollars] on the stage, you want your million-and-a-half worth. I'm willing to finish the tour. I will be in New York at Madison Square Garden [on Saturday], ready to perform."
 

Phonetik

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so whats the deal are the shows cancelled. I got tix and to be honest I dont give a shit about r kelly. I would rather see jay and special guests. Let me know if you guys hear anything. ONe
 

jaydub23510

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This is some funny shit old interview, with Jay and Kels, i was tryna post the mp3 with this interview, is it possible?
 

gram green

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r kelly is just a bitch is all.. aint nobody in the audience of MSG have a fuckin gun... for everyone thats been there you know the security in the muffucca is TIGHT... R kelly is a fag is all... i think its funny as shit someone pepper sprayed his ass.. they sayin it was someone from jays camp... haahahah... the show he walked on sounded dope as fuck... JAYZ with all them special guests....
 

jaydub23510

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Cold Truth said:




good look on the links! it's funny how they said jay made his show up in 5 mins. talking bout they was back stage burning cds and shit, Usher, Mary J, Ja Rule, Memph Man, aw lewd that shit had to go down as a classic moment in hip hop, they'll be in the 757 Nov. 16 and I got my tickets! I wish i could've been at that joint at MSG though,


How hard do you think it would be for TA TA or any of JayZ entourage to get a gun in MSG, I know they could get SOME in at our coliseum!
 

MarkN

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yea but kellys got a bit of a rep for cancelling shows etc so its no suprise but never mind eh, they new album sucks ass and id rather hear jay-z with mary j usher whoever really !

Like jaydub said thats shows gonna be a classic now so they can't complain !
 

classic

I am proud to be southern
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R.kelly is sueing jay-z for 75 mill

Can u fucking belive it!!

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R. Kelly Sues Jay-Z After Tour Cut Short
(AP, 11/01/2004 10:19 PM)

By Mitch Stacy

Singer R. Kelly sued rapper Jay-Z on Monday for $75 million, alleging Jay-Z's "spite and jealousy" prompted him to use violence to force Kelly off their national tour.

The breach of contract suit suggests Jay-Z was perturbed because Kelly was the higher-paid performer. The animosity led to deliberate lighting flubs and other technical problems, violence against Kelly, and threats to force the promoter to drop him, court papers say. The promoter is also named as a defendant.

Kelly, whose best-known hit is "I Believe I Can Fly," accused one of Jay-Z's associates of blasting him with pepper spray early Saturday at Madison Square Garden. He was treated at a hospital and released.

A short time later, the tour's promoter, Atlanta Worldwide Touring, fired Kelly. He and Jay-Z were in the middle of a 40-city tour that had been plagued by canceled shows and reports the two refused to speak to each other.

The tour was supposed to be "the perfect marriage of hip-hop and R&B," said Kelly's lawyer, Edward Hayes. "Instead, it's going to be a terrible divorce."

Atlanta Worldwide said Sunday that the tour has been canceled. Jay-Z's publicist said he was unsure whether the rapper would try to fill the remaining dates as a solo act.

A statement from Island Def Jam Records, which Jay-Z is slated to take over, blamed Kelly's "lack of professionalism and unpredictable behavior" for cancellation of the tour.

Kelly's court papers suggested that the tension between the two musicians was the result of Kelly's larger profit split: 60 percent of the first $15 million earned to Jay-Z's 40 percent.

Kelly's lawsuit says Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, and his associates turned the tour into a "nightmare" by engaging "in a pattern of wrongful conduct" to get the promoter to exclude Kelly.

Kelly's lawsuit asks for $15 million in compensatory damages and $60 million in punitive damages.

On Friday night, court papers say, Kelly was performing when he noticed two men in the audience open their coats and display dark objects that he thought could have been guns.

Kelly twice left the stage, once telling the audience that he was being "menaced." After police arrived and found nothing, Kelly returned to the stage, after which a Jay-Z associate pepper-sprayed Kelly and several members of his entourage, the suit says.
 

massikrbeats

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Tim D said:
here u go Big D


Jay-Z and R. Kelly's Best of Both Worlds tour has officially imploded again. And if you listen to Jay, the highly hyped tour is over.

Thanks, Tim. Very extensive account of what happened. I caught some of it on the radio down here in Philly. It was a surprise to hear Jay express his true feelings like that. i knew he has always been upset cuz dude likes to fuck up people's money by try bullshit antics to get off stage....i think he had to go pick up one of his girlies from school, anyway...

anyone know where they have an audio file of this interview?
 

DJ Hoppa

Broken Complex Records
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damn thats some shit, Jay_Zs a fuckin tropper... im not big into that style of hip hop, but i had the opportunity to see Jay-Z at a special private concert @ the roxy (for those that dont know, its a small 3-4 hundred capacity club in LA) and he ripped the shit outta that stage.. gave me a whole new respect for him, dude is nice on the mic!
 

eXampuL_oNe

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classic said:
Kelly twice left the stage, once telling the audience that he was being "menaced." After police arrived and found nothing, Kelly returned to the stage, after which a Jay-Z associate pepper-sprayed Kelly and several members of his entourage, the suit says.

lol! I think R. Kells has been through so much trouble with the "child pornography incidents" that he is gunna use this as a cover up... I won't ever hate on the man because of his time he's been around and his musical abilities but man! What a pussy! This is just ridiculous, your already mad wealthy and now your just pushing it...
 
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