Exactly, I mean think about it....the original musicians for the most part thought that hey what are these stupid loopers doing with our music......I mean the first Classic song that got violated by a sampler crossed the line as far as original creativity was concerned back then, plus there wasnt a lot of rearrangement...just looping ....so I dont feel that if I sample a sampler i am in violation of the unwritten hip hop producers Codes LOL hell we know that a lot known producers sample shit from new works and other producers quiet as its kept.....we know there is rampant theft of drums, basses or whatever, be it old or new.....I dont have any limits, if it is a sound I am going to use it, I dont care......some people have this view of stealing.........you might as well not sample soon as you start putting some rules or constraint on what can or cant be sampled.....just my opinion......I mean that rule on a respect level is sooooooo hippocritical if you cant sample some new shit or sample another producer.......just think how a lot of musicians feel about people taking their hours of creativity, working on a song for weeks or days and putting all together in practices etc....then someone comes along with a recorder (sampler etc, ) rearranges what they just did....THEN on top of that CALL IT THEIR SONG....its Crazy I tell ya...some might not mind....some might not like it....theres too much music to make to worry about that though....whether its just for your own experiments or to use on a demo.