wuttup i just registered to this site and have been reading a lot of interesting posts. ive been making beats solely with a triton studio up to this point that im able to get access to sometimes. i want to buy something for my self to make beats. i just recently got demos for FL and Live but i havent really messed with them. i saw a couple of ads, one for an MPC1000 and another for a Motif 6 both for the same price. i was convinced i wanted the MPC but im wondering if the Motif can do everything if not more than the MPC. i wanna mess with samples but rather use synths and make original music. the other thing i was wondering is if either one of these pieces can be used to make beats with live instruments; like a bass guitar or an acoustic guitar. i'd really appreciate some feedback thanks.
how does a motif 6 compare to an mpc1000
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the motif can do everything the MPC can do and more but really you cant compare the two cuz theyre two totally workstations. the MPC is a drum sampler/sequencer and the Motif is a synth/sampler/sequencer.
its all up to you what you get but personally id get the Motif. and yes you can sample live instruments into either one of these pieces...if thats what you was asking.
its all up to you what you get but personally id get the Motif. and yes you can sample live instruments into either one of these pieces...if thats what you was asking.
Agent Smith
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ill o.g.
alright here's my two cents...
basically what everyone here is gonna tell you is to go to guitar center and try both of them out. my opinion happens to favor the motif simply because you can sample and also have the option to play keys EASILY right at your fingertips. you can drop a bassline into both (although i prefer to do it within my daw). the advantage the motif has is that if you cant get a bassist to roll through, you can just play out a bassline. i know that =theoretically= you can do this with an mpc but it is way more time consuming to do an intricate bass line. i also know you can load multi samples into mpc and hook keyboards up to them but why do all that when you can have one built in? i am a real keyboard fan (i use the fantom x which i stongly recommend..in relatively same price range...you can pm me if you want to know more).
ANYWAY dont let my opinion sway you...i know some people on here who swear by the mpc...for a good reason because its a solid piece
hope this helps.
basically what everyone here is gonna tell you is to go to guitar center and try both of them out. my opinion happens to favor the motif simply because you can sample and also have the option to play keys EASILY right at your fingertips. you can drop a bassline into both (although i prefer to do it within my daw). the advantage the motif has is that if you cant get a bassist to roll through, you can just play out a bassline. i know that =theoretically= you can do this with an mpc but it is way more time consuming to do an intricate bass line. i also know you can load multi samples into mpc and hook keyboards up to them but why do all that when you can have one built in? i am a real keyboard fan (i use the fantom x which i stongly recommend..in relatively same price range...you can pm me if you want to know more).
ANYWAY dont let my opinion sway you...i know some people on here who swear by the mpc...for a good reason because its a solid piece
hope this helps.
Shwaz
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Go the software route man. Much more affordable, and much more upgradeable. You decide you want a compressor, good luck buying one. However, you can get a good software model for much less. If you have the dough to drop on all the stuff you need to make a hardware studio fine, but if not you probably will be able to set up a software studio with everything you need to produce quality tracks. Check out Reason before you make an hardware decisions and see if it fits the bill for you.
i would definitely consider software but im not sure what the basics are. i have a roland e66 keyboard w/ midi in and midi out which i think i can use as a controller. would i need to get a soundcard? cause the one i have just has mic in, line in, and speakers out. how do i go about hooking it up to my computer?, or can i just buy midi to usb cables and use a usb port? software seems complicated to use and learn is it?
Shwaz
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bekuze said:
Assuming you have a decent computer, what you need to get started is a Copy of Reason. It is an all in one studio software package. Some people prefer Fruity loops, but I really think thats only because they haven't taken the time to learn Reason (controversial point). Reason isn't that hard to learn, and certainly not harder than learning all of the hardware separately.
Your keyboard is fine as a controller, go to m-audio.com to get a USB Midi converter.
The soundcard in your computer is fine for now. If you are looking to record live instruments and vocals, then you need to upgrade. I would suggest the M-audio firewire 410 or 1814 if you have a firewire port on your computer. If not go with the Audiophile 192. All of these have the Midi Ins and Outs you need, inputs to record vocals, outputs to connect to powered monitors, AND work with m-powered Pro Tools. Pro Tools. Another piece of software, being the industry standard for recording and tracking music.
The final upgrade is a set of monitors. You can hold off and use computer speakers, stereo, good headphones for now, but eventually they are pretty essential.
Hope this helps.
good info
wow that's pretty good info, is it a different program needed for the vocals and live instruments or can Reason handle that too? and i was wondering if i do use that roland keyboard, can i make beats with the sounds in the keyboard itself or does the program have sounds to work with or are both possible? thanks.
wow that's pretty good info, is it a different program needed for the vocals and live instruments or can Reason handle that too? and i was wondering if i do use that roland keyboard, can i make beats with the sounds in the keyboard itself or does the program have sounds to work with or are both possible? thanks.
Agent Smith
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i do agree with shwaz...if you dont have your heart set on hardware, it is way easier to start with software.
youll need a different program (a Digital Audio Workstation, commonly referred to as DAW) for recording audio...such as pro tools, cubase, or logic (all have different versions in different price ranges) and an interface to get sound into your computer. from there you can use rewire (no purchase neccesary, it exists within reason) to connect reason to your DAW and there you have it.
ps: reason's got all the sounds you need and thensome
youll need a different program (a Digital Audio Workstation, commonly referred to as DAW) for recording audio...such as pro tools, cubase, or logic (all have different versions in different price ranges) and an interface to get sound into your computer. from there you can use rewire (no purchase neccesary, it exists within reason) to connect reason to your DAW and there you have it.
ps: reason's got all the sounds you need and thensome
Shwaz
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Yeah Reason def has the sounds, and you can add more by getting what’s called a ReFill, which is kinda like a zip file that Reason reads that stores a ton of new samples. As far as the sounds on your Roland, you can use them in Reason but its not as simple as we would like it to be. Reasons one drawback. If you have a DAW like Pro Tools which as I said if you got one of the M-audio soundcards would work with your computer, it would be easier to record your Roland sounds into that and use Rewire as well. The way that would work is One track would have an Input that would be Your Roland. The next track would have an input that would be ReWire. Both Reason and Pro Tools would be open, and Rewire would trick Pro Tools into seeing the music Reason's outputting as an input just like your Roland.
Agent Smith
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ill o.g.
with both reason and your DAW, its just a matter of exporting the audio file and burning it on a cd...if you were to go hardware, t would jsut be a matter of recording it on your DAW and exporting it.
Formant024
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Preproduction-create...record-ehr, record...mix- balance levels, panning, add inserts/sends eq and dynamics...master- multiband comp/lim ...burn - straight fire