Here we go again.... Rappers Jay-Z, Timbaland Sued Over 'Big Pimpin' Melody

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SlickVikNewman

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Another song produced by superstar rapper Timbaland is in question, as rap star Jay-Z and the producer have been hit with a lawsuit over the single "Big Pimpin."



Copyright co-owner Osama Admed Fahmy filed the lawsuit in Los Angeles Federal Court, claiming that Timbaland illegally replayed portions of "Big Pimpin" note-for-note, using a melody lifted from the song "Khosara, Khosara" which was written by composer Baligh Hamdi and performed by Egyptian star Abdel-Halim Hafez in 1957.



"Big Pimpin," which is taken from Jay-Z's hit album Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter also features Texas rap legends UGK and hit #1 in 1999.



Jay-Z, Timbaland, Linkin Park, EMI Music Inc. are among the defendants named in the lawsuit over the hit single, which was also mashed up on Linkin Park's song "Papercut" on the EP Collision Course.



On August 3, 2007, a similar lawsuit was dismissed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, when EMI won a summary judgment in the case.



Plaintiff Ahab Joseph Nafal also sued Jay-Z, Timbaland Productions, Linkin Park, EMI Music Inc., EMI Music Publishing, Ltd. and EMI Blackwood Music, claiming that the artists infringed on the copyright to "Khosara, Khosara."



Lawyers argued that "Khosara, "Khosara" was created in 1957 and was governed by the 1909 Copyright Act and not the 1976 Copyright Act.



The lawsuit was subsequently dismissed because Nafal failed to join all individuals with rights to the composition in the lawsuit, as the 1909 Act mandates.



Other copyright owners of "Khosara, Khosara" include Magdi El-Amroussi, owner of the legendary Soutelphan (Voice of the Artist) record label, which launched in 1961 and ironically, operates as a unit of EMI Arabia.



The original lawsuit was filed in April of 2005.
 

Ozmosis

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damn arabians tryin to get their cheddar now a days...~


LOL, that was harsh and unethical :) But how long has that song been out, and its f**kin 2007. They needed to do that a long time ago. Tell em to get outa here with that lawsuit shit.
 

LDB

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First India now Arabia. Besides getting your samples cleared what's the other lesson to be learned here?







DON'T SAMPLE SHIT FROM A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY...THEM BASTARDS ARE ALREADY STARVING WITH NO DAMN WATER!!!!!!!!


LMBAO
 

slik da relic

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on the real... its not long ago, the lawsuit's been out, ur just hearin about it... people gotta understand that as deep as u dig, there's a chance that ur diggin up some shit that was hot waaaay back in the days in another country at a certain time... just bcuz its obcsure now doesnt mean its always been... besides, if Timbo and Jiggaman took a piece of ur music and blew up off it, u best believe u guys would be chasin they azzes down tryin to get some dough... they mite not have water, but they sure got alot of oil... sorry.

da relic
 

LDB

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on the real... its not long ago, the lawsuit's been out, ur just hearin about it... people gotta understand that as deep as u dig, there's a chance that ur diggin up some shit that was hot waaaay back in the days in another country at a certain time... just bcuz its obcsure now doesnt mean its always been... besides, if Timbo and Jiggaman took a piece of ur music and blew up off it, u best believe u guys would be chasin they azzes down tryin to get some dough... they mite not have water, but they sure got alot of oil... sorry.

da relic


lol...and you know this .......MAN!
 

Relic

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OK OK OK I Went a little far with the wise crack....NOT!


Damn Arabians.....(O SHIT HE SAID IT AGAIN!)

I was gonna say , Who the hell is lettin all these third world guys sue Tim?? LOL

Its not 'Mercan , they aint even human!!

I jest of course, but the lessons learned at Timbos expense lately are valuable, because I sho would fall into the trap of "awww hell aint no one ever gonna figure this out" when its some abstract eastern record..
Thing is thanks to the net and Timbo and JZ's popularity ya get caught!!

In all reality it would have been better for all parties if they just go get with the artists who did the melodies and see about doin work..It aint like they arent international...
 

Vice

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I smell Al-Qaeda behind this.......lol......but for real though hasn't it been like waay to long for them to sue?
 

LDB

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Muthafukkuz that make millions annually and can afford to properly clear these samples STEP UP!
 
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Muthafukkuz that make millions annually and can afford to properly clear these samples STEP UP!

iam with ya, they make millions with samples so they should clear them but on the other side, if they would clear every fuckin piece of sample than they wouldnt have these millions LOL...

so phuckit if u wanna sample then do it just dont let them recognize the sample.:wink:
 

Elementree

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Timbaland should have at least changed the melody up a bit or used a different note in there somewhere. Ive heard alot of beats by jermaine dupri where he blatantly steals someone elses beat and melody and puts 808 drums on it and that bitch never gets sued. Its because he will change like one note of the melody and then he can call it his own. Tim shouldve known better when he was jackin that song for a beat. However, I think Tim and Jay will beat the case because of the 1976 copyright act not being around when the original arab song was made.
DONT JACK MELODYS!!! JACK DRUM PATTERNS OR SOMETHIN!! LOL just kidin..

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