Having trouble fitting loops to seq? heres a solution

[Jacpot]

Most producers complain that they cant match the sample loop to the tempo of the beat. So the rookie move is to speed up or slow down the pitch of the sample. Doing this causes you to lose the TUNE of the sample making it harder to match bass and piano sounds because your sample is off key.

The solution to this problem is to chop In small pieces..
It seems people now adays are scared to chop small. I dont know why but its a fact.
If you sample something thats say 2 bars long. Chop that two bars into 16 pieces and replay the loop back to how it was. It makes it 150 times easier to fit into the sequence.

If this doesnt work. Which it should. Its time to timestretch. Time stretch is one of the most important and useful features on the mpc. Timestretch is overlooked by MANY who think it has no importance or are just too ignorant to use it. I must admit that Ive been making beats for 5 years and I just recently (6 months ago) started timestretching. It stepped my game up times 10.

Now I know your thinking TIME STRETCH TAKES TOO LONG!
Well heres the solution to that. On the mpc their is a function called BPM match. BPM match will tell you the tempo of your chops or loops, then you can adjust it accordingly and it takes seconds. Go into the trim screen hit edit hit Time stretch, open the bpm match window, for example it will say your loop is 90bpm and put the new bpm to whatever you want it to...

This changes the pitch without changing the TUNE....

Some might know this and some might not...

But my advice. CHOP SMALL AND USE TIMESTRETCH.

Peace. Oh yeah Im on the 2kxl

 

[Ash Holmz]

thats good advice .. personally i hate timestreching.... id rather mess with pitches .. i got a good ear for getting things in tune so i dont end up off key .. plus if im sample i always program my sample sequnce before i lay any drums or bass or anything down so im working from jump off of whatere key i tune the sample to... diffrent methods are all good baby .. as long as the final product is bangin! ... thnx for the the post!!

 

[Relic]

ok , xxl...The 2500 , I dont know about the xxl, has somthin called a Patched Phrase function..This allows you to take a sample and loop it and once one you patch phrase it you can adjust the tempo to whatever you want and the sample will play at that tempo WITHOUT changing the pitch...
I havent mastered this by any means Ive been fighting wth the machine and getting back into sampling in general.
The problem with the 2500 is that right now the bpm detector is worthless, hopefully they will get this fixed soon, so unless you know the tempo of the sample you got a problem.

Good heads up Jacpot!

 

[Jacpot]

thats good advice .. personally i hate timestreching.... id rather mess with pitches .. i got a good ear for getting things in tune so i dont end up off key .. plus if im sample i always program my sample sequnce before i lay any drums or bass or anything down so im working from jump off of whatere key i tune the sample to... diffrent methods are all good baby .. as long as the final product is bangin! ... thnx for the the post!!

Nah man! see I used to think like that, "I hate Timestretching" But I tell you what Its one of the greatest functions on the mpc hands down...Especially if you have a vocal sample and u need it to be faster. When u speed it up u got the chipmunk effect everyone hates. So timestretch that thing and the vocals dont speed up...

Whatever floats ya boat I guess...

 

[open mind]

Most producers complain that they cant match the sample loop to the tempo of the beat. So the rookie move is to speed up or slow down the pitch of the sample. Doing this causes you to lose the TUNE of the sample making it harder to match bass and piano sounds because your sample is off key.

The solution to this problem is to chop In small pieces..
It seems people now adays are scared to chop small. I dont know why but its a fact.
If you sample something thats say 2 bars long. Chop that two bars into 16 pieces and replay the loop back to how it was. It makes it 150 times easier to fit into the sequence.

If this doesnt work. Which it should. Its time to timestretch. Time stretch is one of the most important and useful features on the mpc. Timestretch is overlooked by MANY who think it has no importance or are just too ignorant to use it. I must admit that Ive been making beats for 5 years and I just recently (6 months ago) started timestretching. It stepped my game up times 10.

Now I know your thinking TIME STRETCH TAKES TOO LONG!
Well heres the solution to that. On the mpc their is a function called BPM match. BPM match will tell you the tempo of your chops or loops, then you can adjust it accordingly and it takes seconds. Go into the trim screen hit edit hit Time stretch, open the bpm match window, for example it will say your loop is 90bpm and put the new bpm to whatever you want it to...

This changes the pitch without changing the TUNE....

Some might know this and some might not...

But my advice. CHOP SMALL AND USE TIMESTRETCH.

Peace. Oh yeah Im on the 2kxl

i chop a 2 bar loop then i use the fl studio AUTO timestretch by tellin the soft that i want to stretch a 2 bar loop its really easy.

 

[Relic]

But this is an MPC forum.....Not FL

Anyway sounds to me like the 2500 has bugs to work out yet, altough its a hella nice machine.
The xxl is definately got its shit together.

 

[bigdmakintrax]

Nah man! see I used to think like that, "I hate Timestretching" But I tell you what Its one of the greatest functions on the mpc hands down...Especially if you have a vocal sample and u need it to be faster. When u speed it up u got the chipmunk effect everyone hates. So timestretch that thing and the vocals dont speed up...

Whatever floats ya boat I guess...

Timestretch when it was introduced, actually I think Roland gets the credit for first introducing the function, was a big deal and actually a cornerstone of producing that 90's flavor hip hop and not just hip hop though it was a dn still is a part of other genres that implement sampling....time stretch cant be underestimated you can take completely different instrument that everyone can recognize where it came from and change it completely also and take something that was a 16th note riff and turn it into a quarter note and so on(careful beware of the harsh flanging if you got too far LOL)....it really was huge in the 90's more so than people realize...now go do your web searching I am sure there can be some articles to confirm it....but I am so glad my MV does this flawlessly....Akai didn't invent timestretch, nor the good ol fruity loops though...

 

[open mind]

But this is an MPC forum.....Not FL

Anyway sounds to me like the 2500 has bugs to work out yet, altough its a hella nice machine.
The xxl is definately got its shit together.

oh sorry i missed that.

 

[Ozmosis]

choppin the sample up using the MPC is also better in my opinion. I seem to get better chops without any pops or clicks that i would sometimes get using software to chop rather then my MP.

 

[Ash Holmz]

i dunno i use recycle .. and i have mp4000 ..recycle is so damn fast and precise then i just drag the programs directly into the 4000 via the syslink and the samples are all arranged on the pads and evrything .... shit is magical ... my partner (classic) uses the mpc for chopping and zoning but when he saw the way i used recycle he was ready to buy that shit right then and there.. but turns out it doesnt work the same way with the 2xxl as it does with the 4000...

 

[bigdmakintrax]

i dunno i use recycle .. and i have mp4000 ..recycle is so damn fast and precise then i just drag the programs directly into the 4000 via the syslink and the samples are all arranged on the pads and evrything .... shit is magical ... my partner (classic) uses the mpc for chopping and zoning but when he saw the way i used recycle he was ready to buy that shit right then and there.. but turns out it doesnt work the same way with the 2xxl as it does with the 4000...

Hey you must be a pro on that machine by now man... Recycle is VERY dope, only reason I stopped using it cause I got the MV....that was really the only way I could chop nice loops and put em in...it has time stretching too, the decay factor also changes the way the sample sounds at the end....anyhow you have to use the tool out of your toolbox that you like to use, some people use the big hammer for small jobs and some use the small hammer for big jobs, you could probably build a house both of those ways....do what you do !

 

[Ash Holmz]

Hey you must be a pro on that machine by now man... Recycle is VERY dope, only reason I stopped using it cause I got the MV....that was really the only way I could chop nice loops and put em in...it has time stretching too, the decay factor also changes the way the sample sounds at the end....anyhow you have to use the tool out of your toolbox that you like to use, some people use the big hammer for small jobs and some use the small hammer for big jobs, you could probably build a house both of those ways....do what you do !

cheers to that fam!!

 

[N.Y.S.O.M.]

I like choppin in the mpc I find recycle hard to deal wit when I did my Tell Me track I sample the SOS band that sample was 8bars long I had to make it fit in the tempo I had but then again it didn't need to be chopped cuz the sample was perfect lol

 

[beaglin]

how do you chop the two bars into 16 pieces...I can sample it just I don't know how to chop like that..can someone help? holla

oh yeah I have a 2000xl..beaglin

 

[TheMost]

How do i time stretch using reason and what are good tips if you wana make the pitch higher but stay in tune to match yuore bass. This happens to me quite a lot that my bass is a little off