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RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
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http://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1GHJ8Y152HS2A24OJDQ9059ZH3

Some Guys Were Ramblin bout How JAy-Z waz a Byter, Then They Actually Went in Depth Bout the Shit....

They All Did Reviews on How JAy-Z Stole the NAme of hiz Albums (The Black Album, BluePrint, etc.) From Boogie Nights, Metalica, an NEil Diamond.... I Thought it Waz Just Some Stupidity Till They Talked Bout "Look it up On Amazon.com or Any CD Sellin Site".... All the Shit was True, Then They Went In2 Depth Bout the Verses Jay-Z Bit....

Yall Aint Got a Fuckin Clue how Much Shit Theze guys Found.... So I'll Post em.... They're Lil Quotez So It'll Switch From Jay, Jay-Z, Jigga, Hova, An all That Other Shit....



Biggie - "Hypnotize"
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"

Jigga - "Squeeze 1st"
"That's why I, squeeze first ask quesions last. That's how most of these so called gangstas pass"

Biggie - "The World Is Filled"
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuck em will I diss em, that's what these hoes yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all still chase on, I'll replace on, punks
Drunk of Dom"

Jay-Z - "Give It 2 Me"
"When the Remi's in the system, ain't no tellin
Will I fuck 'em will I diss 'em, that's what they be yellin
I'm a pimp by blood, not relation
Y'all be chasin, I replace them, huh?
Drunk off Crist"

Biggie - "Who Shot Ya"
"Thou shalt not fuck with or see Poppa
Feel a thosand deaths...

Jay-Z - "Squeeze 1st"
"thou shalt not fuck with raw me, or he
Face a thousand deaths...

Biggie - "Unbelievable"
"Get ready to die, tell God I said hi
And throw down some ice, for the nicest MC"

Jay-Z - "Friend or Foe 98"
"Do me a favor dude, get 2 ice cubes I pass them
Take that ice up, for the nicest MC"

Biggie - "Kick in The Door"
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"

Jay-Z - "The Ruler's Back"
"Your reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns"

Biggie - "One More Chance"
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"

Jay-Z - "Girls...Remix"
"isn't this great, my flight leaves at eight
her flight lands at nine, my game just rewinds"

Biggie - "Real Niggas Do Real Things"
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niggaz do real things"

Jay-Z - "Real Niggaz"
"On the road to riches and diamond rings
Real niggaz do real things"

Biggie - "Who Shot Ya"
"Old school new school need to learn though
I burn baby burn like Disco Inferno"

Jay-Z - "Frestyle"
"Old school, new school need to know this
I burn like Left Eye Lisa Lopez"

Biggie - "One More Chance"
"I don't chase em I replace em"

Jay - "Is That Yo Bitch"
"I don't chase em I duck em I replace em"

(Memphis Bleek Did That "Iz That Yo Chick" Song an Had the Same Shit, but I Think it Waz Bytin off Jay-Z.... "I don't love 'em I fuck 'em I don't chase 'em I duck 'em I replace 'em with another one")

Big L - (on the 7 minute 95' freestyle with Jigga)
"All I got for chicks is hard dick and bubble gum"

Jay-z - "A Million and One Questions "
"All I got for chicks is hard dick and bubble gum"

Snoop Dogg - "What's My Name?"
"From the depths of the sea, back to the block
Snoop Doggy Dogg, funky as the, the, The D.O.C
Went solo on that ass, but it´s still the same
Long Beach is the spot where I served my cane
....What's my motherfuckin name"
"He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim"

Jigga - "Jigga my nigga"
"From the crap tables down in A.C.
back on the block Jay-Z motherfucker from the, the, the Roc
Went solo on that ass but it´s still the same
Brooklyn be the place where I serve them thangs
....You heard the name"
"He is I, and I am him
Slim with the tilted brim on twenty inch rims"

Nas - "Verbal Intercourse"
"From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable
Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual"

Jay - "Never change"
"From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom
Drink army from one cup pass it around the room,
That's the ritual"

2pac - "My Ambitionz Az a Rydah"
"My attitude is fuck it, and muthafuckaz love it"

Jay-z "Blueprint 2"
"My attitude is fuck it, and muthafuckaz love it"

2pac - "Against All Odds"
"This is payback, i knew you bitch niggaz from way back"

Jay-z - "Blueprint 2"
"This is payback, i knew you bitch niggaz from way back"

Mase - "Lookin' at me"
"Why you over here looking at me, while my girl standing here"

Jay-z - "Don't Know the Song Name, Yall Look it Up"
"Why you over here lookin at me, while all these girls up in here"

Biggie - "Don't Know This Song Name Either"
"Aint no other kings in this rap think they siblings"

Jay-Z - "Don't Know This Song Name Either"
"Aint no other kings in this rap thing, ya kiddin"

Biggie - "Big Poppa"
"I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby.. baby."

Jay-Z - "Don't Know This Song Name Either"
"I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin wit Jay-Z, Jay-Z"

Biggie - "Be Happy" (R.Kelly ft. Biggie)
"Think About It While The Streets You Roam It's Don P And Cristie In The Fridge When You Get Home"

Jay-Z - "Best Of Both Worlds" (Jay-Z & R.Kelly)
"Think About It While The Streets You Roam It's Don P And Army In The Fridge When You Get Home"

B.G. - "Cash money is a army"
"Cash Money Is A Army Nigga, a navy nigga
so if you ever try to harm me Nigga, It ain't gravy Nigga"

Jay-Z - "Takeover"
"Roc-A-Fella is the army, better yet the navy
niggaz'll kidnap your babies, spit at your lady"

Snoop Dogg - "Aint no Fun" (If the Homies Can't Get None)
"Guess who's back in the mothafuckin house
With a fat dick for ya mothafuckin mouth"

Jigga - "Fuck All Nite"
"Guess who's back in my motherfuckin house
Half black, half white chick, I call her Minnie Mouse"

Slick Rick - "Don't Know The Name of This Shit"
"In these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like Ricky D"

Jay-Z - "Don't Know the Name of This Shit"
"In these times, atleast to me, theres alot of rappers out there tryin to sound like Jay -Z"

Rakim - "No Competition"
"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun"

Jay-Z - "S. Carter"
"Competition is none, I remain at the top like the sun"

Cappadona - "Slang Editorial"
"I came to the fork in the road and went straight"

Jay-Z - "Renegades"
"I drove by the fork in the road and went straight"

Nas - "Don't Know the Name of This Shit"
"Seude timbs on my feet makes my cypher complete"

Jay-Z - "Don't Know the Name of This Shit"
"S.dots on my feet makes my cypher complete"

Lil Wayne - "Don't Know The Name of This Shit"
"Number one rapper, sipping mo mo's, dont make me come press ya with this fo fo"

Jay-Z - "Don't Know the Name of This Shit"
"Number one rapper, sipping mo mo's, dont make me come press ya with this fo fo"

2pac - "Against All Oddz"
Payback, I knew U bitch nggaz from way back. witnessed me strapped with Macs, knew i wouldn't play that,"

Jigga - "Some People Hate"
Nigga This the Payback, I know U bitch nggaz from way back. Niggaz wanna clown but the pound it don't play that,"

2pac - "Me and my Girlfriend"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

Jay-Z - "Bonnie and Clyde 03'"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

Dr. Dre - "On the Chronic 2001 LP"
"You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

Jay-Z - "Takeover"
"Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"



There'z Actually a Lotta Sites Made bout Jay-Z Bytin, I Just Don't Feel Like Writin the Shit.... The 1st Shit I Seen waz "Jay-Z Bytes All of Biggie's Verses" Then it Went 2 Him Bytin Damn Near Every1 In the Industry....

I Heard a Lotta Shit bout "Jay-Z Writes a Lot 4 the Industry" The Only Contradiction is The 2pac/Biggie Lines.... Pac Shitted on Jay-Z All the Time, Biggie Freestyled All hiz Shit an I Doubt he Even Seen Jay-Z in a Recording Studio....
 

MarkN

ILLIEN
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Battle Points: 55
wow hes bitten nearly as much as the game did in his first album !

i mean you get rappers that will rhyme other peopls stuff its not like hes ever bitten whole tracks, i mean its the odd line here and there, some of it will be from hanging round with ppl like Biggie and using the same lines sometimes they are just standard rap lyrics so its woteva i guess !
 

djswivel

Producer Extraordinaire
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I think it's not really biting so to speak. More or less he's paying homage to those artists in my opinion. I mean, did he actually think he was gettin away with jackin lines from Hypnotize?? Nah....It was deliberate, and I don't think it has anything to do with lack of skill, just payin respect to those artists. If you notice, all those artists are hip hop greats, except for maybe Mase and BG, but the tracks he sampled from those 2 were big songs.....Doesn't bother me, Jay's a champion in the game....He can do whatever he wants
 

Bosta

Hi Joka
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Battle Points: 3
"once upon a time not long ago, a nigga like myself had to strong arm a hoe - but not a hoe in the sense of having a pussy - but a pussy having no goddamn sense, tryna push me"

bun b (ugk)

Jay used that shit in 99 problems

man i still respect jay z but fuck a paying homage - that shit is bitin - i mean i still love that nigg, but this shit isnt dope to me - especially when u dont even know he's biting - makes me wonder what else he bit i dont know about
 

Royal

Tha RENEGADE
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djswivel said:
I think it's not really biting so to speak. More or less he's paying homage to those artists in my opinion. I mean, did he actually think he was gettin away with jackin lines from Hypnotize?? Nah....It was deliberate, and I don't think it has anything to do with lack of skill, just payin respect to those artists. If you notice, all those artists are hip hop greats, except for maybe Mase and BG, but the tracks he sampled from those 2 were big songs.....Doesn't bother me, Jay's a champion in the game....He can do whatever he wants

I feel the same way. Alot of artist jack a line here and there to pay homage. I don't think he's biting unless it's like half a verse or somethin', but a line or two aint no big thing.

-Roy
 

M!nd_Ctrl

Posted Up
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MarkN said:
standard rap lyrics

Wtf in this list is a standard rap lyric??? Maybe something like "put your hands up" or "wave 'em like you just don't care" but this shit stems back to the roots of Hip Hop.

djswivel said:
More or less he's paying homage to those artists in my opinion.

Homage? I don't think so. I think it's more like using psychology, to get people to relate him with other rap greats. Also, one of my friends brought up the point that this may be a choice of style. I've heard he lays down his lyrics in one take, so maybe his brain brings back memories of lyrics he's heard before. In any other industry wouldn't this be plagerism?

MarkN said:
wow hes bitten nearly as much as the game did in his first album !

Please point out what Game "bit" on his [only] album. I'll listen again, but I don't remember Game straight jacking lines from other rappers. He references the greatness of other rappers in the past and present, but I guess you really need to define "bite" for me.
 

Qwerty

Sshsh-Straight fiya!
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RigorMortis said:
2pac - "Against All Odds"
"This is payback, i knew you bitch niggaz from way back"

Jay-z - "Blueprint 2"
"This is payback, i knew you bitch niggaz from way back"

First, Jay-z doesn't say that in tha song, cuz i know it by heart!

RigorMortis said:
2pac - "Me and my Girlfriend"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

Jay-Z - "Bonnie and Clyde 03'"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

D'UH! The point was to make a remake of that song

RigorMortis said:
Dr. Dre - "On the Chronic 2001 LP"
"You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

Jay-Z - "Takeover"
"Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

Well, Jay-z wrote a couple of lyrics on that album for Dre, so that was probably is OWN LINES!!

I'm not a BIG JAY-Z fan, but i really like him, I'm just tryin to be the devils 'advocate. And a lot of rappers do the same thing but people focus on Jay-z cuz Nas said he was a byter in "Ether".
 

RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
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M!nd_Ctrl said:
That's a good point!


Ctrl
That aint a good point at all, do you sample from hiphopsongs, do you sample from pete rock? do you sample from premo? dont think so,,
a good producer samples from non hiphop if you dont do that you could get smacked one day and you are straight gay? that is just stealing a beat.
A real mc digs in his every day live, in his thoughts, in the situations of his live, he absorbs non hiphop things and translates them into hiphop so other people can recognize it and enjoy it.
A real producers digs from non hiphop things, and uses it like a mc as an ingredient.
So it is not the same at all. If you dont see that....
 

sYgMa

Making head bangers!!!
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Battle Points: 26
Whoa! That's biting all right... I guess the fact that those are very known song would probably mean that either is really cocky and thought people wouldn't listen to his lyrics, that those lines poped in his head (cuz he spit live on tracks) or that it was an hommage....

In any case, it's still biting regardless...
 

Royal

Tha RENEGADE
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RigorMortis said:
That aint a good point at all, do you sample from hiphopsongs, do you sample from pete rock? do you sample from premo? dont think so,,
a good producer samples from non hiphop if you dont do that you could get smacked one day and you are straight gay? that is just stealing a beat.
A real mc digs in his every day live, in his thoughts, in the situations of his live, he absorbs non hiphop things and translates them into hiphop so other people can recognize it and enjoy it.
A real producers digs from non hiphop things, and uses it like a mc as an ingredient.
So it is not the same at all. If you dont see that....

He "samples" from other sources too. Remember "Excuse Me Miss" comes from a Luther Vandross song "Can I Take You Out Tonight".

-Roy
 

FuzE

i make beatz
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 99
So what, he's Jay fukkin Z this shyt doesn't take away from his rap or lyrical credibility. Yeah dude may take a line here or there, its not like he's doin dat shyt cause he's stumped and can't think of nothin else. How many catz can go in the studio, hear a beat they like, start vibin, jump in the booth, and drop a joint. In one take. Not many.

He's prolly the only mofo that can get away wit dis shyt tho.
 

MarkN

ILLIEN
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Battle Points: 55
Biggie - "Who Shot Ya"
"Old school new school need to learn though
I burn baby burn like Disco Inferno"

Jay-Z - "Frestyle"
"Old school, new school need to know this
I burn like Left Eye Lisa Lopez"

lines like that what the fuck how can you call someone a biter for saying i burn in a line ! did usher bite him too lol come on .. thats just scrapping the barrel

other lines like ..........

Snoop Dogg - "What's My Name?"
"From the depths of the sea, back to the block
Snoop Doggy Dogg, funky as the, the, The D.O.C
Went solo on that ass, but it´s still the same
Long Beach is the spot where I served my cane
....What's my motherfuckin name"
"He is I, and I am him, slim with the tilted brim"

Jigga - "Jigga my nigga"
"From the crap tables down in A.C.
back on the block Jay-Z motherfucker from the, the, the Roc
Went solo on that ass but it´s still the same
Brooklyn be the place where I serve them thangs
....You heard the name"
"He is I, and I am him
Slim with the tilted brim on twenty inch rims"

your meant to recognise that its just a different take on it !

Biggie - "Big Poppa"
"I see some ladies tonight that should be having my baby.. baby."

Jay-Z - "Don't Know This Song Name Either"
"I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin wit Jay-Z, Jay-Z"

the same with that one there they are famous lines that he just puts a different spin on it so you recognise it but its still different !

2pac - "Me and my Girlfriend"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

Jay-Z - "Bonnie and Clyde 03'"
"All I need in this life of sin, is me and my girlfriend"

that track woz a remix so your not gonna change the fucin chorus !

Dr. Dre - "On the Chronic 2001 LP"
"You get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

Jay-Z - "Takeover"
"Get zipped up in plastic when it happens that's it"

rumor has it that jay-z writes for de so .....

another point to consider is that jay-z supposedly doesnt write anything down so in that sense everything he raps is gonna be coming from somewhere else like lines hes just collected over the years so the odd borrowed line is enevitable i guess !

as for the game i havent listened to the album enough to name the bitten lines off the top of my head but apparently one of the songs on there ' the documentary' i think woz he bite some elses whole track added to the fact half the album is name calling ...
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
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Battle Points: 68
among all the fightin and bashin, I noticed somethin,,,,,This is fuckin retarded. I mean, thanks to Rig for the post, it was interestin an all, but lets not go in too deep. It aint affectin your music or mines so who gives a fuck. Fuck the industry son,,,I"M OUT,,,,,,lol
 

RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
ill o.g.
StressWon said:
among all the fightin and bashin, I noticed somethin,,,,,This is fuckin retarded. I mean, thanks to Rig for the post, it was interestin an all, but lets not go in too deep. It aint affectin your music or mines so who gives a fuck. Fuck the industry son,,,I"M OUT,,,,,,lol
true but i just wanted to see several perspectives on this..
if he wasnt a big selling artist everyone would hate on him for this fact i can tell you that, and even if he spits it directly it is still biting in my opinion if he is that great write your own, and if you give respect to an artist dont do it thousand times and come up with some own lines to give them respect cos to me this is a sad way...
 

Tim D

Bitchn' Bout IRS
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Battle Points: 1
can someone through up that link again?
 
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