F*ck the Police

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Sincock

Fucking Wankers
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 8
I can tell your kids arent teens yet.
Go ahead and coddle them, and be enable them and bail them out of situations and let them be in charge and tell them that others should respect them before they should respect others and see what you get.

This cop went wrong when he hit her after she was down.

Oh and please dont call the "pigs" if your family goes missing, I'm sure you wouldnt need help from the 'pigs'.
Because of course all 'pigs' are alike.

Gee, you sure read a lot into what I said that wasn't there. Ain't nobody talking about mollicoddlin their kids or showing approval for her behaviour at all. It's beside the point. If you bothered to read what I wrote I wouldn't have to answer your smart arsed comment. My first sentence was that they are two separate issues, did you notice that? Guess not.

Who's talking about all cops being alike? If you bothered to read shit you would have seen that I have police in my family too.

If you want to answer what I actually said rather than try to obfuscate the debate with irrelevant bullshit, I'll be listening.
 

Ominous

OminousRed.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
The girl was on a morning show the other day. The Kathy Lee one where she co-hosts with the black lady.

She was on there with her Dad. They are nowhere close to as ignore as we assume. I guess she and her friend took their mom's car without permission. They got pulled over and arrested on autotheft charges suspicion. She admitted to having an attitude but her explanation was the cop was talking a lot of shit to her. She kicked off her shoes and he says, "You know that's assault right?"

Then he beat her ass....
 

Ominous

OminousRed.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
I have certainly missed your bad attitude and arguementative nature.

Actually what that cop did goes on all the time in jails.

My brother and best friends were Correctional Officers and they said people got beat down all the time. Mostly to establish control, not just to be cruel. The problem was guys always wanted to test their principles to see what they could get away with so they always had to tighten dudes up.

Everyone I knew that was an officer has lost their job due to excessive force.
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
My brother and best friends were Correctional Officers and they said people got beat down all the time. Mostly to establish control, not just to be cruel. The problem was guys always wanted to test their principles to see what they could get away with so they always had to tighten dudes up.

Everyone I knew that was an officer has lost their job due to excessive force.

That would be a hard as hell job imo, its not like your dealing with rational people all day , its different rules in there.
 

Sincock

Fucking Wankers
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 8
Relic: it takes two to argue mate.

I'm aware this goes on in jails and police stations on a regular basis and guess what, it's illegal. At least it is here and from what Ominous and others have said it seems to be so over there too.

On a personal note: I've worked as a security guard, (aware it's not the same), and copped some really serious abuse on a regular basis, especially from smart arse kids. Goes with the job. I only had to use physical force once and that was when I and other people were in direct danger. Legally police, security, prison officers etc are only entitled to use force when they or others are in direct physical danger from another person's actions. Even then they must use what is termed "appropriate force" not excessive force. That's the law here anyway. If it's different in the states then I'm sure you'll let me know.

Oh yeah, there's only one way you'll be rid of my so called "bad attitude" and "argumentative nature" on this forum. The power lies in your hands.
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
Relic: it takes two to argue mate.

I'm aware this goes on in jails and police stations on a regular basis and guess what, it's illegal. At least it is here and from what Ominous and others have said it seems to be so over there too.

On a personal note: I've worked as a security guard, (aware it's not the same), and copped some really serious abuse on a regular basis, especially from smart arse kids. Goes with the job. I only had to use physical force once and that was when I and other people were in direct danger. Legally police, security, prison officers etc are only entitled to use force when they or others are in direct physical danger from another person's actions. Even then they must use what is termed "appropriate force" not excessive force. That's the law here anyway. If it's different in the states then I'm sure you'll let me know.

Oh yeah, there's only one way you'll be rid of my so called "bad attitude" and "argumentative nature" on this forum. The power lies in your hands.

Keep your shorts on Kojak aint nobody messin with you, my whole point is we got alot of bad ass kids in this next generation coming up here in the states and they seem to have zero respect and fear for or of authority. Its not gonna be a good look in the future unless something changes.
Besides I dont take you personally lol. The outback makes you that way! If your not the Sheilas will walk right over you.
 
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Well, I'm rather pro-police, so my view is rather biased.

I've had and still have family and friends in law enforcement. They are good cops. But the people put a really ugly tag on all of them. So I'm here to defend them.

Sorry but I have to say, no its not us that put the ugly tag on them, its their corrupt colleagues that get kicks from the power being a policeman provides, and then abuse that power.

People dont hate the police for no reason.
The concept of a policeforce is a good one, but the practice leaves a lot to be desired.
I agree their are some good cops, but it only takes a few bad apples to give them all a bad name.
The whole justice system has become a joke, is it any wonder no one has much respect for it?
 

Sincock

Fucking Wankers
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 8
Keep your shorts on Kojak aint nobody messin with you, my whole point is we got alot of bad ass kids in this next generation coming up here in the states and they seem to have zero respect and fear for or of authority. Its not gonna be a good look in the future unless something changes.
Besides I dont take you personally lol. The outback makes you that way! If your not the Sheilas will walk right over you.

No argument there, we got crazy kids here too. I don't know what the answer is. I know prevention would start with decent parenting but as a society....I don't know. A little less respect for authority is a good thing IMO. Don't let the bastards push you around.

I don't mean anything personal. Eating kangaroo and wijiti grubs with vegemite all the time gets to you after a while.
 

7thangel

7th Angel of Armageddon
ill o.g.
i knew this would turn out like this, with people bringing in all type of excuses for paid civil employees who are supposed to uphold a law, even when the law is fucked, and not have thin skin or vindictive attitudes.

only speaking out when someone is shot 50 times or brutally raped with a foreign object doesn't cut it. the environment has to be laid out for that shit to happen and that comes from giving them excuses all the damn time. it's not up to the cops to give a teen an asswhippin'.

and why do people think that asswhippin' from parents work anyways? it's a way to punish and to take your frustrations out on. and there are some parents i wouldn't trust to do that, knowing full well they would go to far.

funny, the cops would've arrested y'all for doing what that guy did and the law wouldn't have excused you because the person you assaulted was lippy, especially if it was a 15 year old girl. some would've beat your ass. i guess that would be justified.

dude should be fired just for the sheer stupidity of being caught on tape. while others make sure to never leave evidence, hell, some just give beatings but never arrest in order to avoid any issues, he expected the brass to never let that shit get out.

it's disturbing that way too many black/latino folk feel the need to not rock the boat. what that means is that some would allow their basic rights in respect to cops be trampled. agreeing to illegal search and seizure, etc all in order to not give them an excuses to fuck you up or arrest you with no probable cause. yup, the environment has been laid out.

anyways, excuses. even when it's 50 shots, etc, some will have excuses for people that agreed to do a duty under certain rules.
 

Relic

Voice of Illmuzik Radio
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 83
Sure they are gonna fire the guy....
But Im actually getting tired of all the crime and str8 disrespect and stupidity that is running rampant.
Im also tired of people commiting crimes and then whining about anything that happens to them after that.
Dont. Rob. People. etc etc.
I dont think its right when your not doing something wrong and they f with you because they dont like the way you look. But if your home invading a house and get shot by the owner dont sue for attempted murder.

Question..How many people here are underpaid civil employees charged with upholding the law?


aaaand incedently I would have never thought I would find myself saying this stuff anyway, I have been f'd with by all types of police, even jamaican police
 

Sucio

Old and dirty...
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 304
Sorry but I have to say, no its not us that put the ugly tag on them, its their corrupt colleagues that get kicks from the power being a policeman provides, and then abuse that power.

People dont hate the police for no reason.
The concept of a policeforce is a good one, but the practice leaves a lot to be desired.
I agree their are some good cops, but it only takes a few bad apples to give them all a bad name.
The whole justice system has become a joke, is it any wonder no one has much respect for it?


Name one justice system that is better....



Even when the police are acting within the law, they are ridiculed...Yes a few bad apples spoil it for the rest of them..... But when people see police presence, I hear "fucking pigs" or something like that.....when they're just doing their job. Plus the media puts a pretty bad stamp on police as well....they only report when police fuck up (and they are human).....Shit NYPD didn't get nearly as much recognition as FDNY on 9-11. Everyone was concerned about how the firefighters were heroes (and they are). It's a shame.... There are some great cops out there....but no one hears about it....
 
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