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50 cal

King of the West
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Everybody that uses emu cards, I was wondering have you tried the new drivers, and how they compare to the old ones. I was planning on getting a 1212m a while ago but i was told it wasn't worth it due to instability. The specs look very good but i just don't want to buy a piece of junk
 

MGTheFuture

ILLIEN
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I used the emu 1212m since august.

And i love it.

Once you got your settings configured its perfect.

It records nicely too.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
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Word, there been bitches complaining about loads of errors, about drivers etc etc, where it moslty comes down to is badly cracked warez, non intel setups and noobs. Second, the mixer's routing are that of an nline mixer, there no point in screwing around when you dont know the purpose of such a console. Third, Powerfx can be somewhat of pain at first, and sometimes they aint that great but still, it's a dsp farm they'll stick in a $99 card that outputs 120db snr, 192kHz/24bit. No one is doing that shit right now for this price.

Last, bitches complaining about being non adaptive to old version platforms like Logic...Yes, there no support since they dont develop it anymore so what's the point.

So dont worry, this is the cheapest card around with better resolutions than digi could rack up. Cheapest to being pro ( if you have the nicey nearfield to go along ).
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
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Battle Points: 33
Ive had a 1820 for almost a year now.....I think its a great card and it has pristine converters......I would without a doubt highly recommend this card or any of this line since u get so much quality for the price range.
 

AMG

God:Mind~Asiatic
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I have the Emulator X and I've had no problems...1010 PCI Card & 0202 I/O Daughter Board.
 
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Pinnacle

Guest
I have a 0404 for a couple of months. At first it was giving me problems and I thought it was the card. But I realized that it was windows that was fucked up and not the card. I reinstalled windows and the card couldn't be better. Once installed properly Emu cards are the best bang for the buck.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
It's not really windows ( well yeah it is but ). When you're doing high reso jobs like video and/or audio than you can forget about multitasking or internet for that matter because they all they up resources you need for processing, transferspeed and buffer ( and because windows cant benefit from various kernell drivers like OSx does for mac ). So running a daw with class A audio pheriperals and internet is like taking the ferrari for groceries when it's the only car you got... It gets ugly
 

BeAtArKiTeK

"Only God Can Judge Me"
ill o.g.
I just got the emu 1212m last night and didnt have any troubles installing it or getting it running.
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
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Battle Points: 33
Formant024 said:
It's not really windows ( well yeah it is but ). When you're doing high reso jobs like video and/or audio than you can forget about multitasking or internet for that matter because they all they up resources you need for processing, transferspeed and buffer ( and because windows cant benefit from various kernell drivers like OSx does for mac ). So running a daw with class A audio pheriperals and internet is like taking the ferrari for groceries when it's the only car you got... It gets ugly
Yeah, im hip....But still...Im starting to simply hate windows lately.....Like the SP2 update....that things fucking pure malicious software updating....Ever since i updated its been making all my shit run way clunkier......I just dont like how it changes your prefs without yer consent as well...thats fucking gay.
 

50 cal

King of the West
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Battle Points: 1
Formant024 said:
It's not really windows ( well yeah it is but ). When you're doing high reso jobs like video and/or audio than you can forget about multitasking or internet for that matter because they all they up resources you need for processing, transferspeed and buffer ( and because windows cant benefit from various kernell drivers like OSx does for mac ). So running a daw with class A audio pheriperals and internet is like taking the ferrari for groceries when it's the only car you got... It gets ugly

Format my computer is only going to be for music and nothing else. It's a p4 3.0 with (2) 80 gigabyte hard drives and a gig of ram. How do you think it will support the 1212m and maybe later the 1820m.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
Next grand install you do make sure you update everything before installing emu drivers, even before installing them, make a ghost of a clean running XP. Secondly, I hadn't runn into troubles thusfar with SP2 and I wasnt too keen either to install it. I also got rid of everything I dont need, paintbrush crap, Iexplorer package, you name it, all gone.

NO INTERNET !!!!
and if you do make sure the temp. files go the another HD instead of the system drive (c:) but then you still have a lot of crap going into the registries when auto updating, second, virusscanners slow down on cpu, third in some configurations you handle ( at best ) 2 drives for a whole daw meaning a third HD would be best for temp internet files ( then still ... get a friggin P2 for internet ).

Bottomline is that you have a system drive that has no HD activity but buffering and program support. All audio file handling ( even temp folders for proggies on C : ), samples etc should be on a different disk. That's ideal..
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
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50 cal said:
man, i'm getting confused, i here some people say it works flawlessy and then some say it sucks ass.

1.)Well the thing is that you should not consider the pc as a thing that does everything you want to do on it, it's audio pur sang totaly meaning there is no room for anything else because you want the maximum resources to be available for high performance ( which is what audio requires ). The pc is officialy been pimped and is now a DAW.

2.)Intel Pentium only!!! cpu, motherboard, matching fast memory and ( when doing multitrack recording ) get them S-ATA drives ( 2x ) with enough cache. It's expensive but you're handicapped without them when recording multiple I/O's at the same time. Then make sure all is updated, starting with the BIOS first.

3.)This is a great card, but a mistery in the hands of a noob. There are quite a lot of basic techniques/options implemented but if you're not into hardware consoles ( the inline cq. splitsection type console, which is a multitrack principle on its own based on non destructive recording and features Inline Monitoring ) is hard to comprehand the usefullness of all features, or even the fact wether you need those functions in your setup. Add to this the routing possibilities and you're miles away from kansas. This is a great deal you need to understand in order to get ready and make pro sounding productions and it's only difficult because there too many options ( but consider that to be a big advantage ).

Inline in a nutshell said:
With "normal" mixing consoles you have 1 fader per channel for volume control. A mixing console according the inline priciple has 2 faders per channel for volume control. One fader is for volume of the recording, while the other fader is for volume control of the mix. Due to this principle you can make a recording and mix that is independent from each other. It's possible to record without the use of EQ and outboard gear, while using them within the mix, which is simultaneously generated.

The major advantage with this method is that during recording a coarse stereo mix is made, which is independent of the multitrack recording. The coarse stereo mix can be takin' home on the same day of the recording. The director, musican(s) can at ease listen at home to the recordings and select the songs that will or will be not used during mixdown. By means of this method you can save a lot of hours in the studio, because you already have sort out which song wil be used or not

Inline monitoring in a nutshell said:
In-Line Monitoring
A mixing board architecture. Many newer large format mixing consoles have an additional, (often smaller) fader section designed into each channel strip. This can directly feed either the recorded signal being fed to the multitrack recorder or the monitor mix. In the standard monitor mix mode, this small fader is used to adjust the monitor level of the associated tape track. In the "Flipped" mode ( no, not busta ), it is used to control the signal being sent to tape while the main fader can be used to control monitor mix levels. This enables multitrack levels (which aren't often changed while recording) to be located out of the way, while the more frequently used monitor levels are located at the more accessible main fader position. Mixing consoles that do not use an inline configuration usually employ what is known as a "split" format, where the tape sends and returns are on completely separate channel strips from the main channel inputs. Both designs have their strengths and weaknesses. Most modern consoles use the in-line approach.

They often also refer to it as the "Mix B" function or "Flip-switch", every brand their own jargon. Sending to tape is simply sending to whatever's recording, which has lots of inputs.

Noobs, Also check ( its a good read, a lot too )
http://www.tweakheadz.com/
http://www.tweakheadz.com/review_of_the_emu_1820m.html

Why its so damn good in specs;
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/creative-emu-1820/

4.) I ain't gonna bitch about this but... Powerfx has it's limits due to driver development, they're engaging to 64bit drivers etcetera....etcetera...etcetera...blablabla....blah di blabla.
You know, they slam a dsp from the audigy series into a pro card as an extra and to keep shit affordable while slamming the competition. You pay 99 bucks in the least and you get a lot more than any card under 150 bucks, hell not even 200 unless it's another emu. Take out the DSP feature and it would still kill the competition because of it's features, so if it works completly flawless in the near time than that's real cute but I'll chose PSP plugs over the EDSP fx because ( PSP is much better thusfar ) dual-processors are on their way as we speak to make up the loss we suffer now from cpu digesting reverbs.

There's problems with WDM support at 96kHz and 192kHz, in fact there's seems to be no support at all, so you're left with ASIO... not a big issue.

Ey..simply forget it..stop whining hehe.

Last I like to add that; Yes it's all fucked up if you dont meet the minimal requirements and buy the friggin M version (1212M/1820M) simply because you have much better converters. You got M and start using proper vst's and you'll even forget that the card has a DSP chip on it.
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 33
Formant024 said:
1.)Well the thing is that you should not consider the pc as a thing that does everything you want to do on it, it's audio pur sang totaly meaning there is no room for anything else because you want the maximum resources to be available for high performance ( which is what audio requires ).
Oh i didnt mean that tho Form - unless of course that was directed at something else said in this thread?......I was just adding that im starting to not dig Windows like i used to, nothing more......I totally agree about not using the internet if u make music on yer computer.....100%!!!!.......THats the best thing u can do fer yer PC.......Unfortunatly, i dont have that option, since this is also my only computer so i tend to cover all the bases with the computer even tho i kno im taking one for the team:(

As far as the initial question - EMU is good shit bro - Dont be afraid that they dont kno their shit cuz they do....Trust me, u cant go wrong with these cards.
 
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