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Did 2pac and BIG actually 'beef'?

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Rhythmikal

Rhythmikal

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'hahaha this guys a prick' yeh thats whats im hearin u think right now, but this is what im sayin.

what i dont get is that people run around sayin that 2pac and Big beefed - but when did Biggie actually reply to 2pac or diss 2pac in any way??? it was never a 'beef', just a one sided fued. Pac just got real angry because he suspected Big had him shot or whatever, he talked alot of shit about him and made Hit Em Up, and Big/Puff did nothing.

Another wierd thing people say: ''Look what beef did to 2pac and Biggie''

WTF! If you say that then you are implying that BIGGIE HAD 2PAC SHOT, and then as a result of that Pac's men had Biggie shot! People need to stop sayin this, it just sounds like they had each other killed, think about it.

sAfE.
 
Cold Truth

Cold Truth

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bthis!
ummm the whole thing is that PAC thought biggie had him shot at the NY STUDIO HE WAS RECORDING IN. pac thought that biggie shot him. im pretty sure there is much more to the story though...

so..... anyhow..... thats kind of grounds for beefin with somebody if you think they had you shot.... whatever label you decide to put on it.... kinda nitpicky if you ask me, but still..."beef" "one sided feud" or whatever you chooose to call it.... its still the same animal, and thats a big problem.

and realistically..... both were killed by gettin blasted on while in their cars by another car.... a drive by... gangsta style... now thing is nobody knows what or how or why or even who for that matter was responsible... now conspiracy theorists can play the FEDS card and all... but seriously nobody has any real info outside of the people directly involved... suge has got to know something.... but realistically pac had serious issues with big and puff.... your reachin for depth here...
 
Rhythmikal

Rhythmikal

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BASTARD said:
biggie-who shot ya , aimed at 2pac
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hmm possibly... but i suppose we will never really know about that... its kinda suspicious though, but i dont think BIG would have someone shot 5 times, it doesnt seem like it was in him to murder, especially a guy who used to be a good friend.

what im basically sayin is that it was nothing like the Nas vs. Jay-Z thing, in my eyes that was a 'beef'. Pac and Big werent sending disses to radio stations as soon as they were finished like Jay and Nas were.

on the 'who shot pac' issue, i believe (im not saying its correct) that Orlando Anderson (the southide Crip) killed Pac. im not sayin that just because Pac beat him down in a hotel an hour before, im sayin that because i have seen so much evidence that backs this up its unbelieveable. i found this site once that had police files from the investigation and so much of it points to Anderson, ill try and find the link again and post it up.

sAfE.
 
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Rhythmikal said:
hmm possibly... but i suppose we will never really know about that... its kinda suspicious though, but i dont think BIG would have someone shot 5 times, it doesnt seem like it was in him to murder, especially a guy who used to be a good friend.

what im basically sayin is that it was nothing like the Nas vs. Jay-Z thing, in my eyes that was a 'beef'. Pac and Big werent sending disses to radio stations as soon as they were finished like Jay and Nas were.

on the 'who shot pac' issue, i believe (im not saying its correct) that Orlando Anderson (the southide Crip) killed Pac. im not sayin that just because Pac beat him down in a hotel an hour before, im sayin that because i have seen so much evidence that backs this up its unbelieveable. i found this site once that had police files from the investigation and so much of it points to Anderson, ill try and find the link again and post it up.

sAfE.
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what you mean possibly,he released that after pac got shot,even if he wasnt the one who had it done hes claimin responsibilty basically thats harsher than any diss.who else could it have been for
 
Cleverwon

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Biggie never wanted to go at 2pac on wax. Although i agree "who shot ya" was aimed at pac. Suge owed pac millions of dollars. Pac was going to leave death row. Suge found out, and had pac killed. He also had biggie killed so that it looked like they were both murdered cuz of their beef with eachother. All that shit about big having pac killed is just media hype that they want you to believe. These 2 were good friends, and would never have ill intent towards eachother outside of the music. You can see any interviews and see this is true. Dont fucking believe everything you see and hear on tv man.
 
Rhythmikal

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BASTARD said:
what you mean possibly,he released that after pac got shot,even if he wasnt the one who had it done hes claimin responsibilty basically thats harsher than any diss.who else could it have been for
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what do u mean what do i mean possibly?

that shit aint 100%.
 
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The Bastard

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DOOD MAD A SONG CALLED WHO SHOT YA RIGHT AFTER PAC GOT SHOT THAT CONTAINS LYRICS WHICH STATE ''West coast motherfuckers... hah!'' ID SAY THATS 110% AIMED AT HIM
 
Rhythmikal

Rhythmikal

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the westcoast wasnt just 2pac. you got a million other rappers out there at that time.
 
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But The Name Of The Song Was Who Shot Ya...... And Pac Had Got Shot...... 2+2=4
 
Complexxx

Complexxx

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cleverwon said:
Biggie never wanted to go at 2pac on wax. Although i agree "who shot ya" was aimed at pac. Suge owed pac millions of dollars. Pac was going to leave death row. Suge found out, and had pac killed. He also had biggie killed so that it looked like they were both murdered cuz of their beef with eachother. All that shit about big having pac killed is just media hype that they want you to believe. These 2 were good friends, and would never have ill intent towards eachother outside of the music. You can see any interviews and see this is true. Dont fucking believe everything you see and hear on tv man.
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I completely agree. Suge is the sheistiest cat in the music business. The whole situation points in his direction. He fueled the whole so called "beef" between the two. He was all about rippin' Pac off. Not to mention, I know he still had money when he got out of prison, but Death Row ain't dropped an album in so damn long. The label can't be bringin in too much money.
 
Complexxx

Complexxx

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BASTARD said:
DOOD MAD A SONG CALLED WHO SHOT YA RIGHT AFTER PAC GOT SHOT THAT CONTAINS LYRICS WHICH STATE ''West coast motherfuckers... hah!'' ID SAY THATS 110% AIMED AT HIM
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Unless straight up said in the song "I shot Pac," no one can be 100% confident that he aimed it at Pac. I'm not saying he didn't, i'm just saying that there ain't enough hard evidence in the song to make a conclusion like that.
 
CampO

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Yea Straightup I watched a Documentary that comes on here in Canada Called the Passionate Eye And these guys aint american they British Jorunalist An shit and they Went Investgating everything and to make a long story short the Evidence they came up with was that .

Suge owed Pac Millions Upoin Million for a bunch of stuff and Pac had planned to Leave DeathRow and start his own Label which would of made sense right? he was probably the most powerful Artist in hiphop at that time correct ?

They Interviewed many LA.PD who were also employees of Deathrow as Body Guards all i nO is these was some Shady Cops all into Coke an Gambling an all sorts of Crooked shit .

Suge Paid a Cop (forgot his name ) to Blast Pac and he even told the Reporters that he was Shot in the head but the bullet could not be taken out cuz it could kill him . It was later proven that Broken Glass had just Cut his Head .

Now with Biggie what the deal was is that The Feds were coming down hard on Suge with the Investigation and he figured that if he had Biggie Killed it would make it look like this was a Retaliation for Pac being killed .

The Journalist later interviewd Biggies Body Guard who had seen the Suspects who murdered Biggie and they Showed him a Number of Photo's asking if he recognized anyone . He Pointed to the Same guy that the Journalist had Being saying is the guy who Murdered Biggie the whole time This guy was the same Cop that killed Pac


So Suge Knight had them both killed i Believe he aint Nothing in HipHop but a Cancer I hope that Fat Bastards Dies .
 
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Complexxx said:
Unless straight up said in the song "I shot Pac," no one can be 100% confident that he aimed it at Pac. I'm not saying he didn't, i'm just saying that there ain't enough hard evidence in the song to make a conclusion like that.
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wouldnt saying ''i shot you tupac'' on a track be used against against him in court and be the stupidest thing anybody can ever do. it doesnt take much common sense to figure out who it was aimed at, but anyway
 
CampO

CampO

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I no Biggie Said he made who shot ya way before that happen which is understantable cuz people be recording Material non Stop right ?
 
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