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wizard

ILLIEN
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Battle Points: 141
criticism

over the years of making beats and doing hip-hop, i found out a lot of producers and artists, cant take critcism too good!
criticism is one of the best things that u can hear! if u are always hearing - 'oh, that beat is hot or that flow is hot' - you are not really getting anywhere, your skill level will never grow. as myself, i think criticism is one of the best tools for an artist or a producer. therefore, we must learn how to take criticism. we must have to understand, that it isn't personal... we must understand on how to accept it, and be optimistic about it and use it for a source of guidance. it isn't a put down, it's more of a stepping stone for us as artist to become better and learn more values of trade! my ears can never hear what u or someone else hear, and my eyes can't see what someone elses eyes see. therefore to accept criticism is a form of a high level of maturing in your work. to accept it and understand that he or she isn't trying to hurt my fealings. we must be able to understand that he or she is opening more doors for you or I to become better.
i luv illmuzik and da rest of all ya, stayup and prosper!
 

RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
ill o.g.
a little point of criticism,, whatup with the "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"?
and wouldnt be bad if you hit the enter once or twice when you type like this people will be more likely to read what you say...
 

Sanova

Guess Who's Back
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 9
sorry.. not gonna read one long paragraph like that...

give us some line breaks or indents like rigor said.
 

5th Sequence

Hip Hop Head, Certified
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 198
Very good point wizard. I admit i'm not too great at taking criticism a lot of the times. Not to be bigheaded but when someone gives criticism of my stuff and they themselves arent at a level (musically) that I want to be at, I find it difficult to completely value their input. Just bein honest, but criticism is a very valuable tool that people like me need to embrace more.
 

trez260

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
one must learn to tell the differnce between "constructive criticsim" and "negative talk" always stay open to constructive criticism for it may add to your arsenal of creativeness. negative just trys to kill it. the biggest problem people have is being able to determine the difference. the other is dealing with people who are blunt when they speak. when someone says that joint is "wack" alot of cats feelings get hurt real easy. which someone saying can easily be "negative talk"..if someone can give point as to why it's "wack"..then take heed of the info and try applying it to see if you're outcome is better. if so, then you win, keep it movin. if not, oh well..save it try it again another time, nonetheless, keep it movin..simple.
 
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open mind

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5th Sequence said:
Very good point wizard. I admit i'm not too great at taking criticism a lot of the times. Not to be bigheaded but when someone gives criticism of my stuff and they themselves arent at a level (musically) that I want to be at, I find it difficult to completely value their input. Just bein honest, but criticism is a very valuable tool that people like me need to embrace more.
that is on point! it really does play a big role WHO is criticism you.and of course how the criticism is.is it constructive? or just hating and so on...

but in general yes it helps and is a great tool.ask me about it lol.
 
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open mind

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Relic said:
^ yeah cuz you get critisized more than anyone else here...LOL
not more not less.its just cause i offer myself to critisizizm or wuteva its called like lol its all good cause it helps a lot if criiziIZM is constructive.and not just hate like some have here. :)


they know who they are.
 

adomav17

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
5th Sequence said:
Very good point wizard. I admit i'm not too great at taking criticism a lot of the times. Not to be bigheaded but when someone gives criticism of my stuff and they themselves arent at a level (musically) that I want to be at, I find it difficult to completely value their input. Just bein honest, but criticism is a very valuable tool that people like me need to embrace more.


word...i think the same way...like when i listen to their beats if they are wack i'm thinking to my self.........why the fuck should i take their advice..... but yeah you should be able to tell the difference between contstructive criticism and hating....but yeah i love criticism, and hate it at the same time... cuz after a while of getting no criticism you tend to get bigheaded, as much as u hate to admit it.....
 

NobleWordz

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 4
The most important part of criticism is putting it to good use.

Don't offer up your tracks unless your willing to work on the suggestions put forward. If a few people point out a specific flaw in your work then go back and fix it. I have totally remade tracks after getting feedback and for the most part improved on the original.

Use criticism as a tool, and never take it to hart. Don't ask friends for input most will tell you what you want to hear.

~NW~
 

Big Tone

You done fucked up
ill o.g.
sorry. cant read that shit. needs more commas or periods and less exclamation points.
 

TheDeen

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
wizard said:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!critic ism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
over the years of making beats and doing hip-hop!!!! i found out alot of producers and artist, cant take critcism to good!!!! cirticism is one of the best things that u can hear!!!! if u are always hearing,,, oh that beat is hot or that flow is hot, u r not really getting anyware, your skill level will never grow!!! as myself i think criticism is one of the best tools for an artist or a producer!! there for we must learn how to take criticism !!!! we must have to understand, that it isn't personal... we must understand on how to except it and be optimistic about it and use it for a source of guidence!!! it isnt a put down, its more of a stepping stone for us as artist to become better and learn more values of are trade!!!! my ears can never hear what u or someone else hears, and my eyes cant see what someone elses eyes see!!!! therefor to except criticism is a form of a high level of maturing in your work!!!! to except it and understand that he or she isnt trying to hurt my fealings!!!!! we must be able to understand that he or she is opening more doors for u or i to become better!!! we must be able to except and broaded are horrizen!!!! thank ya sincerly wizard!!!!! ......................oh sorry for da typos had to much hennessy!!!!!!lmao...... i luv illmuzik and da rest of all ya!!!! stayup and prosper!!!!


Speaking of criticism - don't be mad when I tell you to:

LEARN HOW TO TYPE and take some GRAMMAR LESSONS.

Btw, Thank you WingsOfAnAngel for removing the exclamations.
 

Hi-Lo

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
wizard said:
criticism

over the years of making beats and doing hip-hop, i found out a lot of producers and artists, cant take critcism too good!
criticism is one of the best things that u can hear! if u are always hearing - 'oh, that beat is hot or that flow is hot' - you are not really getting anywhere, your skill level will never grow. as myself, i think criticism is one of the best tools for an artist or a producer. therefore, we must learn how to take criticism. we must have to understand, that it isn't personal... we must understand on how to accept it, and be optimistic about it and use it for a source of guidance. it isn't a put down, it's more of a stepping stone for us as artist to become better and learn more values of trade! my ears can never hear what u or someone else hear, and my eyes can't see what someone elses eyes see. therefore to accept criticism is a form of a high level of maturing in your work. to accept it and understand that he or she isn't trying to hurt my fealings. we must be able to understand that he or she is opening more doors for you or I to become better.
i luv illmuzik and da rest of all ya, stayup and prosper!

other people's criticism of your stuff is cool, but the only way to make it big in this game is to be your own worst critic. the day you sit back and get complacent is when a hungrier kid knocks you off.
 

krysolite

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
lol. see wut ppl dont get.. like some ppl commenting on the post up there. ppl attempt to give criticism, but are hating while they're doing so. it's like, 'that drum patterns retarded'.
SOME of you guys do that. shit give some meaningful criticisms.

theres a line between criticism and hating. and alotta ppl cross that line. SOo, learn to take constructive criticism, and learn to GIVE good criticism. peace
 

SlickVikNewman

Hip Hop Super Villian
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Battle Points: 1
Damn you are probably on a ledge somewhere by now with all the post you just got. LOL Stay up though fam, I took the time to decode it and read it. I see your point. There is a lot more hate than constructive critique nowadays, unfortunately sometimes even in my favorite place in the world, Illmuzik.

Some of yall try to act like you are coming real at a person or whatever, but if your not trying to help them...........why the hell are you here?
 

classic

I am proud to be southern
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Battle Points: 90
krysolite said:
theres a line between criticism and hating. and alotta ppl cross that line. SOo, learn to take constructive criticism, and learn to GIVE good criticism. peace


THats all good ,but how to u critque somebody if they are pure garbage.....

Im sorry man but im an honset blunt dude, im not here to hold people's hand if ur shit is wack im gonna tell you, YOUR SHIT is wack... If ur shit is dope im gonna tell you YOUR SHIT is dope...

Alot of times in the showcase i find my self trying to sprinkle sugar on shit, no matter how you take it if ur skills aint up to par then no matter how i saw it its gonna come of like im hating...

Maybe im harsh but .......
 

SlickVikNewman

Hip Hop Super Villian
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
Ok........

classic said:
THats all good ,but how to u critque somebody if they are pure garbage.....

Im sorry man but im an honset blunt dude, im not here to hold people's hand if ur shit is wack im gonna tell you, YOUR SHIT is wack... If ur shit is dope im gonna tell you YOUR SHIT is dope...

Alot of times in the showcase i find my self trying to sprinkle sugar on shit, no matter how you take it if ur skills aint up to par then no matter how i saw it its gonna come of like im hating...

Maybe im harsh but .......

(edited so I wont catch the same fate as the person who posted LOL)

I feel you to a certain extent. I feel like if its basically just some wack, bottom of the barrell bullshit, then that has to be said. If you cant deal with what somebody here says, how in the hell are you gonna make it when people with buying power do it?

At the same time though this site is here to help people. Give the reason why its wack and some general ideas on how to stop making wack, waste of everybody's listening time bullshit.

Now me I aint about to hold nobody's hand or baby cake they ass. We all (for the most part) are grown as fu@@. You have to admit though, just reading through some of the post, some people do hate a lil bit instead of critique. Hell if I shoot a brick let me know PLEASE! This is a big boys game at the end of the day and big boys dont pout or cry yall....
 
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