Cold Truth said:or that, the ELECTORAL VOTE will be the deciding factor, ESPECIALLY IN A CLOSE RACE? the only time the electoral vote DOESNT DECIDE is in a landslide situation. or that the ELECTORAL VOTERS- hello, ELECTORAL- hence the fucking name- those guys are all men with vested, personal and financial interests at stake, which drives their vote.
The electoral college isn't a bunch of guys sittin in a room conspiring to undermine the population. Each state has a certain number of electoral votes determined by the population of that state. That's why there are such things as "swing" states. The candidates want to win states like Ohio, California, Texas, and Illinois because they have large populations thus getting them more electoral votes. This is also why the candidate who wins the popular vote doesn't always (but damn near all the time) win the election.
benny beatz said:dont get me wrong i hate the fuckin governement but it is what it is and this my country and shit... this is where im at... fuck it i dont care if theres a draft ill go to iraq... kill motherfuckers tryna blow up new york and shit... shit is fucked up either way basically but thats life...
dj ShorTbuS said:Cold Truth said:or that, the ELECTORAL VOTE will be the deciding factor, ESPECIALLY IN A CLOSE RACE? the only time the electoral vote DOESNT DECIDE is in a landslide situation. or that the ELECTORAL VOTERS- hello, ELECTORAL- hence the fucking name- those guys are all men with vested, personal and financial interests at stake, which drives their vote.
The electoral college isn't a bunch of guys sittin in a room conspiring to undermine the population. Each state has a certain number of electoral votes determined by the population of that state. That's why there are such things as "swing" states. The candidates want to win states like Ohio, California, Texas, and Illinois because they have large populations thus getting them more electoral votes. This is also why the candidate who wins the popular vote doesn't always (but damn near all the time) win the election.
i know- but WHO these people are and WHERE their loyalties lie... thats what i am talking about.
M!nd_Ctrl said:Peeps that don't vote are ign'ant and better not complain when the shit hits the fan. Bush will only fuck this country up more than it already. The rest of the world already hates us so that bitch needs to be taken out of office!
Yeah Kerry was for the war at first...but under the premise that Iraq had WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction). Remember when the "intelligence" was gathered. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT! Bottom line Bush lied and attacked Iraq because his daddy couldn't finish the job (and he makes money off that shit too). What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden being "The Most Dangerous Man in The World"? The most dangerous man in the world is the president of the United States. Listen to Immortal Technique's "Bin Laden" and you'll know what I mean.
Get that monkey outta office! Vote! Or don't complain when you're family members and friends have to go to war. This war is Vietnam II my friends, we can't win in guerilla warfare.
Our military does well in a more organized format, but this type of warfare is straight up unstructured. Woman, children, people in regular clothes will blast you.
My last point is that at least Kerry cares about that programs that will educate and support the future of our country. Bush has cut spending all around to support this useless war. We needs someone who cares about this country. Even if it does mean a few more dollars off a paycheck. Trust me, when everyone is taken care of this country will thrive.
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haha this is funny..... everyone saw farenhieght 9/11 and all of a sudden knows EXACTLY what happened, you know all the facts, dont you?
KERRY SUPPORTED THE WAR PEOPLE. KERRY SUPPORTED BUSH UNTIL HE GOT HIS NOMINATION AND TURN IT AROUND. all this hoopla abuot "kerry cares"- is taht an official slogan or something? arnold said the same shit in california abuot our education and WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING HE CUT?
thats right, education. FIRST THING PEOPLE. and that was a major issue that lead to the recall anyways.
i am far from ignorant in these matters; more ignorance lies in people jumping on one guys bandwagon simly because he isnt the other guy. more ignorance lies in voting for kerry because kerry isnt bush.
Cold Truth said:haha this is funny..... everyone saw farenhieght 9/11 and all of a sudden knows EXACTLY what happened, you know all the facts, dont you?
KERRY SUPPORTED THE WAR PEOPLE. KERRY SUPPORTED BUSH UNTIL HE GOT HIS NOMINATION AND TURN IT AROUND. all this hoopla abuot "kerry cares"- is taht an official slogan or something? arnold said the same shit in california abuot our education and WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING HE CUT?
thats right, education. FIRST THING PEOPLE. and that was a major issue that lead to the recall anyways.
i am far from ignorant in these matters; more ignorance lies in people jumping on one guys bandwagon simly because he isnt the other guy. more ignorance lies in voting for kerry because kerry isnt bush.
M!nd_Ctrl said:Benny, who from Iraq tried to blow up "New York and shit"? You don't even know what the fuck is going on do you?
benny beatz said:fuck it... you know what you believe and i know what i believe. you're not God so you dont know shit period.
M!nd_Ctrl said:Peeps that don't vote are ign'ant and better not complain when the shit hits the fan.
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StressWon said:Ya vote don't mean shit. Bush will be President again. It's a bigger picture then what is lead on to believe.
M!nd_Ctrl said:Peeps that don't vote are ign'ant and better not complain when the shit hits the fan. Bush will only fuck this country up more than it already. The rest of the world already hates us so that bitch needs to be taken out of office!
Yeah Kerry was for the war at first...but under the premise that Iraq had WMDs (Weapons of Mass Destruction). Remember when the "intelligence" was gathered. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT! Bottom line Bush lied and attacked Iraq because his daddy couldn't finish the job (and he makes money off that shit too). What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden being "The Most Dangerous Man in The World"? The most dangerous man in the world is the president of the United States. Listen to Immortal Technique's "Bin Laden" and you'll know what I mean.
Get that monkey outta office! Vote! Or don't complain when you're family members and friends have to go to war. This war is Vietnam II my friends, we can't win in guerilla warfare.
Our military does well in a more organized format, but this type of warfare is straight up unstructured. Woman, children, people in regular clothes will blast you.
My last point is that at least Kerry cares about that programs that will educate and support the future of our country. Bush has cut spending all around to support this useless war. We needs someone who cares about this country. Even if it does mean a few more dollars off a paycheck. Trust me, when everyone is taken care of this country will thrive.
Please vote.
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orpheus said:Bush will only be president if you don't go out and vote for Kerry. What you're saying is just dumb. If everybody who thought their vote didn't mean shit went out and voted for a single candidate, that person would win for sure. How can you say your vote means nothing when you can make that happen. Especially after the florida elections 4 years ago, which was the closest in history i believe, everybody knows that when you add up enough single votes (like the ONE you would cast), that does mean something. How're you gonna fight the power in a system that you don't even vote in. We all have the ability to change the system. That's what part of the system is -- the chance to change it if we don't like where its going. Right now nobody but the elites and the dumb like where its going. So, If everybody in the country were politically active, the system would change. Go vote. Don't be stupid