Finished Beat It Up! - Battle #105

[2GooD Productions]

the battles are fair...i tottaly agree on that...and even knowing the production style of a member here doesnt mean will get my vote...

i sometimes feel that people knowing its me can count against me, especially if people decide to vote tactically or something.
I dont know, I try not to worry about it, and just keep swinging those punches and firing them nukes. If I win great, if I lose, Ill be back.

 

[crosstevsky]

Yeah I do, and I appreciate that you point them out. but I'm more like a beatmaker than a producer. I mean I am a producer too, but I produce songs, not beats, you know? If I have an idea for a song I want to produce or I want to make the product for an artist (And/or Make the artist as they're the product) I put my all into getting the greatest product outta the thing, that's the "Producer side" of me. I'd say you gained the skill to always be more of a producer than a beatmaker, even when you ain't workin on anythin specific, you know? getting the best outta everything and that's really cool. that's one of the main reasons you get to win a lot. I mean yea you are a really skilled beatmaker but we got lots of good beatmakers here, there's a reason YOU are the one who always makes it to top 3.


depends what you mean by "Better".

well that is a broad discussion...it depends how you see things...

 

[crosstevsky]

there is popular Bartok quote that says competitions are for horses not musicians...

 

[Armani]

I appreciate the kind words and I do have spells where I go on a roll. But Im really not always top three. I often have beats that I really like and think will do really well, and I dont even place. Im used to losing so much that it doesnt even bother me any more.
I just get up and keep fighting

You can win whenever you want to though. I mean I have never seen a beatmaker as skilled as you do a good mix and intro and lose. It might look like I'm asking for too much, "Make a good beat, mix it well, do a dope intro and you'll win" DUH! but in fact, the skill is somethin some of us have, and a good mix and intro is not such a hard thing to do really as soon as you learn it. so it's just repeating the cycle of those 3 things. you got all those 3, I have 2.5.

 

[2GooD Productions]

You can win whenever you want to though. I mean I have never seen a beatmaker as skilled as you do a good mix and intro and lose. It might look like I'm asking for too much, "Make a good beat, mix it well, do a dope intro and you'll win" DUH! but in fact, the skill is somethin some of us have, and a good mix and intro is not such a hard thing to do really as soon as you learn it. so it's just repeating the cycle of those 3 things. you got all those 3, I have 2.5.

well keep pushing and you will have all three and maybe invent a 4th that nobody knew about.

 

[Armani]

well that is a broad discussion...it depends how you see things...

yea, that's why so many people get butthurt. the salty guy who called as from 90s was actually right, he would've placed above many of us if the battle was voted by normal people.

 

[crosstevsky]

yea, that's why so many people get butthurt. the salty guy who called as from 90s was actually right, he would've placed above many of us if the battle was voted by normal people.

but whats normal i ask (with a philosophical pat on my beard)

 

[2GooD Productions]

yea, that's why so many people get butthurt. the salty guy who called as from 90s was actually right, he would've placed above many of us if the battle was voted by normal people.

we have no way of knowing how anybody would vote, until the votes are counted, i dont really have a strong bias between trap an boom bap any more, although i really used to. I just go for the better beat IMO, thats all any of us can do

 

[Armani]

but whats normal i ask (with a philosophical pat on my beard)

we have no way of knowing how anybody would vote, until the votes are counted

just look at youtube views and billboard and non-rigged numbers and you'll see what a normal/average person likes. 6ix9ine got like.. 40 mil on 1 day?!

 

[crosstevsky]

just look at youtube views and billboard and non-rigged numbers and you'll see what a normal/average person likes. 6ix9ine got like.. 40 mil on 1 day?!

but the machinery behind it?

 

[2GooD Productions]

just look at youtube views and billboard and non-rigged numbers and you'll see what a normal/average person likes. 6ix9ine got like.. 40 mil on 1 day?!

mainstream music isnt representative of the genre. Its an exploitation of the genre, using naive youngsters that are ripped off to make a fortune for their labels. People like what the radio tells them to like, generally.
A vast majority of people couldnt give a fuck about music the way we do, to them its background noise

 

[Armani]

mainstream music isnt representative of the genre. Its an exploitation of the genre, using naive youngsters that are ripped off to make a fortune for their labels. People like what the radio tells them to like, generally

yup. so by radio standars, the 90s shitter was right, right?

 

[2GooD Productions]

yup. so by radio standars, the 90s shitter was right, right?

in the 90's you only had specialist shows playing hip hop, even when it was mainstream it was underground, by todays standards at least

 

[Armani]

in the 90's you only had specialist shows playing hip hop, even when it was mainstream it was underground, by todays standards at least

but by todays mainstream standards, the guy should've won. I mean if he was as good as u in terms of musical skill (cuz he was far behind u in terms of that), he'd be a millionaire compared to u (with the same publishing as u) because of the style he's making. right?

 

[Fade]

I wouldnt know how to make them any fairer.

I could make them fairier?

 

[2GooD Productions]

but by todays mainstream standards, the guy should've won. I mean if he was as good as u in terms of musical skill (cuz he was far behind u in terms of that), he'd be a millionaire compared to u (with the same publishing as u) because of the style he's making. right?

but you are comparing professional musicians and their tastes with the taste of people that only like what they listen to on radio, because thats all they have ever heard. And they really couldnt care too much anyway. Its just background noise, a bit of entertainment.
The subtle things like drum programming, layering sounds, drop outs, changeups, structure and all that shit, is alien to the mainstream listener.

 

[2GooD Productions]

I could make them fairier?

how the fuck could you make it any fairer than it already is?

 

[Fade]

how the fuck could you make it any fairer than it already is?

Exactly. If someone recognizes the person's beat there's nothing I can do. Even tags aren't allowed!

 

[crosstevsky]

i said that it would be a long and a bit pointless discussion, so i think @ArvinArmani should get into politics...or something

 

[2GooD Productions]

Exactly. If someone recognizes the person's beat there's nothing I can do. Even tags aren't allowed!

maybe if i didnt enter the battles? would that be fair?