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Got this from this Chicago Tribune site.. http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2007/06/further_thought.html
"What follows are some final, rather disjointed notes and thoughts about the “Sopranos” finale:
Some have speculated that the man in the diner who looked like he might be getting ready to whack Tony also played, at some previous point, a nephew of Phil Leotardo. It turns out the mystery man (or the “Man in Members Only Jacket,” according to the credits), is a pizza restaurant owner who has no previous connection to the show. He did not also play Nicky Leotardo. There’s more on the man here. (theres a link there)
When Paulie first refused the construction job that Tony offered and walked outside, did anyone else figure he had doublecrossed Tony? That was just one of dozens of misdirections and red herrings in the episode. Ah well, they give us something to talk about, eh?
Speaking of red herrings, I was stupid enough to think they might pay off that carefully set up story line about illegal asbestos dumping. Stupid, stupid me!
"Battlestar Galactica" creator Ron Moore loved the ending of the finale (thanks to Logan of Galactica Sitrep for the link).
I’ll miss the ziti. And the manigot (manicotti?) And the gabagool. I don’t know what gabagool is – I gather it’s an Italian deli treat of some kind – but oh, how I’ll miss it. How Carmela and Meadow didn’t pack on the pounds amidst all that food remains the show’s biggest mystery.
Think about that last scene in front of Satriale’s between Tony and Paulie. No Christopher, no Silvio, no Bobby Bacala, no Adriana stopping by. Just those two, squabbling like an old married couple. I’ve always thought that Chase would want to leave Tony in a hell of his own making, and having to rely on Paulie and a reduced, untested crew is one version of that hell.
How hilarious was the premise of the movie that A.J. was involved in making? A detective gets sucked into the Internet via his data port and solves the murder of virtual prostitutes. Honestly, that awful concept sounds better than half the movies that do get made.
I loved how Tony began to dismiss “this whole therapy thing” to A.J.’s doctor, only to segue quickly into his issues: “I never could please my mother.” Edie Falco’s eye-rolling reactions as Carmela were beyond perfect. Whether or not Tony passed on an aptitude for depression to his son, he certainly passed on a gift for narcissism.
I’m not one to parse every single song that can be heard on the show (though it can be fun), but the fact that a Vanilla Fudge cover of “You Keep Me Hanging On” could be heard at least twice had to be a signal that Chase wasn’t going to neatly wrap things up “Gilmore Girls” style.
Malapropism of the night: When Tony told a reluctant Paulie that he was “a little miffled.”
I floated the idea in Monday’s Web chat that perhaps that cat was the reincarnation of Adriana, or even Christopher himself. Ken Levine thinks that the kitty might be a symbol of Big Pussy, while a co-worker suggested that the cat had to be Chris -- and that the feline took special delight in driving Paulie nuts, just as Chris had done in life.
Oh, Janice. In a family full of people who excel at lying to themselves, she’s probably the all-time champ. “I had therapy,” she harrumphed to Tony. “I’m a good mother.” Sure, Janice, say it enough times and that might make it true, right?
Chase took the time to make a couple of comments about TV during the finale:
Joining the armed forces to fight terrorists is “more noble than watching these [expletive] fantasies on TV of how we’re kicking their [expletive],” A.J. fulminated at Bobby’s funeral reception.
In a briefly glimpsed scene from the “Twilight Zone,” a character is heard saying, “The television industry today is looking for talent. They’re looking for quality. They’re preoccupied with talent and quality, and the writer is a major commodity.” A snarky comment on what TV is really looking for (not quality?), a self-congratulatory comment on Chase’s career or a snarky comment about the probable upcoming writers’ strike? You choose.
That meeting in the huge garage among Tony, Little Carmine and Phil’s guys was full of foreboding. I kept thinking someone was going to charge in and kill everyone. In any case, what a great find for the location of the scene.
Speaking of foreboding, how about these near-death scenes, or what felt like near-death scenes:
Paulie in the scarily empty Bada Bing
A.J. in the woods with smoke filling his car – anyone else wonder whether he and his girlfriend might have a suicide pact?
Tony’s lawyer constantly glancing at the Bing’s security cameras during their meeting
That’s not even counting the Terrifying Parallel Parking Scene of Near Death. No wonder my palms were sweating well before 10 p.m. Way to lay on the suspense, ye gods!
When I was rewatching the episode on Monday morning, I noticed a tear in Tony’s eye when he was talking to Uncle Junior. That’s why this show rewards re-watching -- I notice tiny, perfect touches like that.
So A.J. wants to apply for Officers Candidate School, then become a CIA agent, then become Donald Trump’s personal helicopter pilot. What is he, five? I’m surprised he didn’t add that one day he’d also like to be a pirate.
I think the ending was briliant. There was all this speculation about who was going to get whacked. Well guess what. It was the audience. The suspious guy walks by. You are at the table with Tony Soprano and he looks at you. Lights out. Your life with the mob on HBO is over. The sequel will be your funeral."
"What follows are some final, rather disjointed notes and thoughts about the “Sopranos” finale:
Some have speculated that the man in the diner who looked like he might be getting ready to whack Tony also played, at some previous point, a nephew of Phil Leotardo. It turns out the mystery man (or the “Man in Members Only Jacket,” according to the credits), is a pizza restaurant owner who has no previous connection to the show. He did not also play Nicky Leotardo. There’s more on the man here. (theres a link there)
When Paulie first refused the construction job that Tony offered and walked outside, did anyone else figure he had doublecrossed Tony? That was just one of dozens of misdirections and red herrings in the episode. Ah well, they give us something to talk about, eh?
Speaking of red herrings, I was stupid enough to think they might pay off that carefully set up story line about illegal asbestos dumping. Stupid, stupid me!
"Battlestar Galactica" creator Ron Moore loved the ending of the finale (thanks to Logan of Galactica Sitrep for the link).
I’ll miss the ziti. And the manigot (manicotti?) And the gabagool. I don’t know what gabagool is – I gather it’s an Italian deli treat of some kind – but oh, how I’ll miss it. How Carmela and Meadow didn’t pack on the pounds amidst all that food remains the show’s biggest mystery.
Think about that last scene in front of Satriale’s between Tony and Paulie. No Christopher, no Silvio, no Bobby Bacala, no Adriana stopping by. Just those two, squabbling like an old married couple. I’ve always thought that Chase would want to leave Tony in a hell of his own making, and having to rely on Paulie and a reduced, untested crew is one version of that hell.
How hilarious was the premise of the movie that A.J. was involved in making? A detective gets sucked into the Internet via his data port and solves the murder of virtual prostitutes. Honestly, that awful concept sounds better than half the movies that do get made.
I loved how Tony began to dismiss “this whole therapy thing” to A.J.’s doctor, only to segue quickly into his issues: “I never could please my mother.” Edie Falco’s eye-rolling reactions as Carmela were beyond perfect. Whether or not Tony passed on an aptitude for depression to his son, he certainly passed on a gift for narcissism.
I’m not one to parse every single song that can be heard on the show (though it can be fun), but the fact that a Vanilla Fudge cover of “You Keep Me Hanging On” could be heard at least twice had to be a signal that Chase wasn’t going to neatly wrap things up “Gilmore Girls” style.
Malapropism of the night: When Tony told a reluctant Paulie that he was “a little miffled.”
I floated the idea in Monday’s Web chat that perhaps that cat was the reincarnation of Adriana, or even Christopher himself. Ken Levine thinks that the kitty might be a symbol of Big Pussy, while a co-worker suggested that the cat had to be Chris -- and that the feline took special delight in driving Paulie nuts, just as Chris had done in life.
Oh, Janice. In a family full of people who excel at lying to themselves, she’s probably the all-time champ. “I had therapy,” she harrumphed to Tony. “I’m a good mother.” Sure, Janice, say it enough times and that might make it true, right?
Chase took the time to make a couple of comments about TV during the finale:
Joining the armed forces to fight terrorists is “more noble than watching these [expletive] fantasies on TV of how we’re kicking their [expletive],” A.J. fulminated at Bobby’s funeral reception.
In a briefly glimpsed scene from the “Twilight Zone,” a character is heard saying, “The television industry today is looking for talent. They’re looking for quality. They’re preoccupied with talent and quality, and the writer is a major commodity.” A snarky comment on what TV is really looking for (not quality?), a self-congratulatory comment on Chase’s career or a snarky comment about the probable upcoming writers’ strike? You choose.
That meeting in the huge garage among Tony, Little Carmine and Phil’s guys was full of foreboding. I kept thinking someone was going to charge in and kill everyone. In any case, what a great find for the location of the scene.
Speaking of foreboding, how about these near-death scenes, or what felt like near-death scenes:
Paulie in the scarily empty Bada Bing
A.J. in the woods with smoke filling his car – anyone else wonder whether he and his girlfriend might have a suicide pact?
Tony’s lawyer constantly glancing at the Bing’s security cameras during their meeting
That’s not even counting the Terrifying Parallel Parking Scene of Near Death. No wonder my palms were sweating well before 10 p.m. Way to lay on the suspense, ye gods!
When I was rewatching the episode on Monday morning, I noticed a tear in Tony’s eye when he was talking to Uncle Junior. That’s why this show rewards re-watching -- I notice tiny, perfect touches like that.
So A.J. wants to apply for Officers Candidate School, then become a CIA agent, then become Donald Trump’s personal helicopter pilot. What is he, five? I’m surprised he didn’t add that one day he’d also like to be a pirate.
I think the ending was briliant. There was all this speculation about who was going to get whacked. Well guess what. It was the audience. The suspious guy walks by. You are at the table with Tony Soprano and he looks at you. Lights out. Your life with the mob on HBO is over. The sequel will be your funeral."
all this dicussion and theories is the reason they ended it like that .... now people are gonna come up with theories for years.. lol ... if they had shown what happened it would have just been what is was .. now this opens up mad possibilities .. there prolly will be a movie or at least a book to follow up .... and there will prolly be a spinoff of some sort too ..
Benny BuKu
BAD NEWS
ill o.g.
I'm so confused......if that's true ^^^then it sucks again...lol
T
The Bastard
Guest
not even breakin balls right now, but thats the dumbest theory ive heard so far, i hope u read that sumwhere and didnt come up wit it yurself, this aint fresh prince or the wonder years, the audience aint part of the show, no1 looks at the camera and talks to theaudience
SlickVikNewman
Hip Hop Super Villian
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
The Sopranos..............The Movie..........coming soon. I can feel that shit comin down the line. Damn I hope The Wire goes out all up in the air and shit