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Fade

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And any talent he might have had was removed with them.
As a recording engineer I would quit being a recording engineer if I had to deal with that
One of the first things I learned in the studio is that as an engineer, 99% of the time you're going to be recording music that you don't like. This is one of those times.
 

TWU

The.Widely.Unknown
Simply fascinating.

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At this point I would just kick the fella from my studio and prompt an AI to mumble for a minute straight...
 
Evidence has an interview where he describes a situation like this. The artist basically records whatever for about 8 minutes and then listens to the playback. If there’s a dope line, they’ll erase everything but that line and build around that until they have something substantial. A bizarre way to “write” lyrics but that’s what this video looks like.
 

Fade

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Evidence has an interview where he describes a situation like this. The artist basically records whatever for about 8 minutes and then listens to the playback. If there’s a dope line, they’ll erase everything but that line and build around that until they have something substantial. A bizarre way to “write” lyrics but that’s what this video looks like.
That sounds completely ridiculous. I can't imagine how they can get anything useful out of that anyway!
Since you're all here, for comparison and to wipe that from your memories.
Nice! Rapping and DJ'ing over his own beat...
 

Fade

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NYT did a little video essay about this “method” of recording. It’s a actually a good watch and explains the state of rap music these days…

Wow. WOW.

Here's my thought on this video:
  • So basically Jay Z started the movement to not write, which means he ruined everything. Fuck that guy.
  • They don't write lyrics probably because they can't actually read and write.
  • This video actually needed subtitles because they mumble even when they speak.
  • "5 songs a night". Why are they making so many songs? It will lead to watered down trash for any artist.
  • Lazy.
This is what I've been saying for a long time now about technology. Because it's so easy to make music with the tech we have, people get lazy. The DAWs and plugins make the job easier, which is great, but that can make people lazy, from the producer to the rapper to the engineer. It's crazy to see how much Rap music has changed that I don't even recognize it anymore. I know everything changes but this period of Rap just sucks.
 

BiggChev

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Jay Z is the anomaly and falls well outside the standard deviation of skill. While I do think he may carry some blame for this unfortunate trend...I think the real figurehead of it is Lil Wayne.

He was the first person, in my recollection, who glorified 'not writing.' He was also well known for spending un-fathomable amounts of time in the studio. To be clear, I am not a fan of Lil Wayne. He's no where near my Top 10 DOA, and even though I lived through his hot streak, I never understood his legendary status. There are some joints that I really enjoyed (Carter 2, 3, and some of the mixtapes).

Regardless, he inspired an entire generation of rappers. He also glorified using substances. He codified; Live in the studio, don't write, and substance abuse. Not only codify, but glorify it. It was cool to do what Wayne did. Again, not a fan, but Wayne is also an anomaly. These other "rappers" that try to follow him, simply can't. It's all a copy of a copy. Replicated, simplified, and mirrored to the point where the actual "skill" has been removed.

To the point of technology being a crutch, I both agree and guilty of using it as such. I grew up taking piano lessons and playing in school and marching bands. At a point in my life I was a very fluent in reading sheet music. Fuck, before I got into DAWs and samplers, I actually wrote my music on charts - be it piano melodies or guitar tabs. There is something to be said about sitting at the piano with pad, pencil, and eraser. Playing, replaying, writing, erasing, re-writing, the music you hear in your head. You learn your instrument, you use your ears, and you work on getting it right.

Now, enter the world of DAWs and samplers. I'll openly admit that my skills have taken a big hit since. I can just click/right-click the wrong notes. Move them willy nilly across the grid. It's more hunting for an idea. The writing process isn't crystallizing ideas and putting them to paper - it's waving a pencil across the pad and hoping it writes out a sentence. The same can be said about my guitar skills. Things like time-stretch/flex time or just being able to chop and re-align means I don't have to "nail" the parts. I can play them in and just 'tidy' it up afterwards.
 
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