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Nuendo Is Better Than Protools

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WHICH ONE IS BETTER NUENDO OR PROTOLS

  • NUENDO

    Votes: 3 75.0%

  • PROTOLS

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Total voters
    4
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ill o.g.
NUENDO BY STEINBERG IS MUCH BETTER THAN PROTOOLS. ITS A MORE FLEXABLE PROGRAM AND WORKS WITH MANY OTHER PROGRAMS WHILE PROTOOLS DOESNT. NUENDO WORKS WITH REASON AND FRUTIY LOOPS. NUENDO CAN DO VIDEO SO IF YOU RECORS A SONG YOU CAN INCORPORATE VIDEO INTO IT. PROTOOLS HAS A LIMITED NUMDER OF TRACKS (32) AND IF YOU EXCEED THAT IT WILL COST YOU AN ARM AND A LEG TO GET MORE. NUENDO ON THE OTHER HAND HAS UNLIMITED NUMBER OF TRACKS (IF YOUR COMPUTER CAN SUPPORT THE TRACKS) NUENDO ALSO SUPPORTS ALL PLUG-INS WHILE PROTOLS DOESNT


YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE IS BETTER
 
bigdmakintrax

bigdmakintrax

BeatKreatoR
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 123
bthis!
I have seen a very large studio nearby using Nuendo and they refuse to use protools and this studio has major clients all over the world sending them stuff to be mastered and peeps come in from all over to record there.....so I dunno I guess you have to have someone that has used both extensively...(I use Protools Digi 001 for about 50% of my recording) so I can't make a real call on which would be better.
 
C

Copenhagen

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I haven't used Nuendo, so I can't make that call either, though I'm pretty satisfied with ProTools. A few corrections though, ProTools 6.1 and above supports rewire and can therefore work with FL and Reason. Also, with FXexpansion's "VST to RTAS wrapper", you can use almost all VST plug-ins too.

ProTools cannot do video, but I see that as a strong point as that means they are fully dedicated to music only.
Yes, ProTools LE only has 32 tracks, but I've never gotten close to needing more than that.
One negative critic I can say about ProTools though, is that they are always very slow at upgrading their software to suit new trends etc

I can't tell you which one is better, people will choose what they feel is best for them, and if it works for their needs then it does it's job...whether it be ProTools, Nuendo, Cubase, Logic etc etc
 
A

Architect

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 3
I use Nuendo 2, I've never used Pro Tools except for the free version for Windows 98, I like Nuendo a lot. When it comes to Pro Tools many people tell me "it's just easy to use" not that it's better or worse than anything else out there. Nuendo's mixer has been compared to using an SSL Console, the features and capabilities are enormous I haven't scratched the surface at all. Once I really get the hardware to backup Nuendo's power I'll be in business! It's also a matter of choice so for a lot of folks nothing will beat Pro Tools! In the end it's all software and it's up to the user on what will work best.
 
Formant024

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
It's all relative hehe! I mean, what's the point ?! Nuendo with which console and which converters, protools with which console and converters. Like fasttracker with a high end farm card and a neve chnl strip sounds good too.
 
2

2_nice

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
all i have to say is saying blatantly that nuendo is better is just silly ludicrous even. man the pro tools you are talking about is pro tools free. the pro tools you have heard people talking about as the industry standard for audio is STILL the industry standard for audio. the fact that alot of the best plugins are made only for rtas and tdm format is reason enough to say big ups pro tools then there are things like it's interface better audio engine (panning effects sound differently program to program and is one of the main tools of a pro-ducer).
nuendo is great. me myself i use sonar 3 and i love it i wouldn't use pro tools at home. pro tools is for big studios where you are using nuemann mics neve preamps ssl mixing desks ETC. floating vocal rooms and mixing in rooms with a perfect monitoring environment.
don;t be ignorant nuendo is great but not quite the same product
 
Formant024

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
Eventualy its about the interface, AD/DA conversion ( transport ) and sync. Brand doesnt really matter, I can use an old DDA, add Apogee converters and Logic as the platform and forget about the rest.
 
SyN

SyN

SUICYCO MANIA
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 5
wow, have any of you actually used a REAL pro-tools setup? Maybe a MixPlus system or perhaps maybe even the new HD systems... well... let me know... I for one have been a diehard protools user since 96... I have tried many other programs and hardware out there... as a matter of fact, i setup studios and used to work with many high scale pro audio retail establishments... none of that guitar center and samash crap... i do agree that working at home is different than being in the studio... but you know how many times i have had someone bring in a cubase session to dump audio into the studio where Pro-Tools HD is available and they want to keep it in cubase or some other program of the sort... I have done many sessions where i import it all into protools and then export it back to another program in the end... Pro-tools IS the standard of the industry not just because its easy... because it works on all realms... i am not sure that any of you have used anything other than LE or FREE... Protools does work with video... DIGIDESIGN is a part of AVID... avid is one of the industry's top video editing machines out there... and protools and avid work seemlessly back and forth... i have done allot of work with video in protools... why else would Protools have a MOVIE menu if it didnt work with video???? i don't know what to really say, but hey, check out the DIGI 002 or 002 Rack for your home setup... you can do all of your work in protools and then bring it to any real studio around and work seemlessly... and as far as the comments about protools taking too long to update is a whole nother thing... when they do an update it is usually a big deal and allot of new additions that actually WORK... they make sure that everything works right before making an update... unlike other programs out there like cakewalk or cubase where they have revisions left and right mainly to fix bugs from their last updates... i have worked with allot of software out there and set up allot of systems for people and help people work with it... but in the end... it's pro-tools for me... there is no substitute (digital performer or logic are the 2 closest 2nds and they work pretty smoothly back and forth... as well as they utilize pro-tools hardware pretty nicely)
 
Formant024

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
You can do the same with the new Emu farm cards, RME can do the same aswell. Them OEM's simply dont manufacture a kit complete kit. That's what makes protools a benefit au contrair when looking at individual gear needed to achieve an "alternative" setup enabling the same conditions. I agree on the industrial standards but that can be mostly accounted for by the digidesign's marketing. I can think of a 1000 and 1 solution when it comes to a pro setup or bedroom techies stake out. Not one of them would need a protools set when talking about flexibility or quality.

Again, for the 1000 and 1 time, I aint saying its bad but its not the best thing around. Its practical in purchase but if you have experience you can come up with a lot of alternatives which can be better and cheaper.
Most people are just blinded by the marketing and dont use their own opinion on whats good, which takes time and experience. Funny thing is that a lot people that have that experience and time ( read age ) will agree with me and the young cats will throw themselves into the PT hype no matter what other people would say ( nor what they themselves really know about the platforms available in general ).
 
M

mArkoFdAbEaTz

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
i cant afford nuendo i have cubase .:bawling:
 
God

God

Creator of the Universe
ill o.g.
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daRk pz

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Very touchy subject... They both have +'s and -'s... I've not used Nuendo but heard good things and Protools is a very well respected program... I use PT and I've had my issues with the upgrading and all the fixes that comes along with that. It's very interesting to see major producers and studios making the switch but i'm waiting to see if i'll do tha same. As for now, PT is the better program for ME but it's possible that when i use Nuendo I'll stand corrected!...
 
A

Architect

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 3
Let's get more scientific on what we are trying to achieve, I think Pro Tools and Nuendo both have a lot to offer, but for someone choosing which one would be best for them, we aren't really helping them out. I think we may be confusing the situation with our own prejudice, what is are benchmarks? For example:

What are the Mixing options for both DAWs?
How easy is it to import different platforms for both DAWs?
How cost effective is a quality Pro Tools system vs a quality Nuendo system?
What type of user support does each system offer?
Which DAW is better suited for preproduction, post production, home user, pro user, both?
What are the plugins like for each DAW? What is the quality of those plugins? Cost?
What type of hardware do you have to use in order to have a quality system for each DAW? How much will all this cost?
Do you have to use proprietary audio interfaces for both DAWs?



This is just an example of the types of questions we should be asking and answering, otherwise anyone reading this thread will continue to be confused about the subject. Like a lot of people said already there are pluses and minuses so let's figure out what the scope is how are we comparing one being better than the other and then go from there with some useful information for people to decide. At least it would help me out because I haven't used Pro Tools that much so I want some specific details to be able to decide which is better suited for me!
 
Formant024

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
ill o.g.
What about !

WHAT HARDWARE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DAW

That shit makes more difference that peeps imagine, the daw itself always has the same functionality, resolution etc when we talk about the new proggies, just the current standards, but it's hardware that makes the difference and they all need/use hardware along the software platform. To my practical point of view, the only difference is the user interface ( gui ) and the fact that Protools has OEM dedicated hardware to support ( and to create appeal ) their DAW. I think people would understand better if they invested some time on what you need to build a setup rather than to open up the new Blbalbalablabalba catalog and pick out the most expensive they can find.
 
A

Architect

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 3
Formant024 said:
What about !

WHAT HARDWARE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DAW

That shit makes more difference that peeps imagine, the daw itself always has the same functionality, resolution etc when we talk about the new proggies, just the current standards, but it's hardware that makes the difference and they all need/use hardware along the software platform. To my practical point of view, the only difference is the user interface ( gui ) and the fact that Protools has OEM dedicated hardware to support ( and to create appeal ) their DAW. I think people would understand better if they invested some time on what you need to build a setup rather than to open up the new Blbalbalablabalba catalog and pick out the most expensive they can find.
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Most definetly Formant! Good point. I lot of folks jump on the bandwagon just to say Ohh I use Pro Tools such and such or I use Nuendo with that! Big deal!

Another point to ponder is no matter what type of setup your using whether it's a $100,000 dollar setup or a $1,000 setup your only as good as your production and engineering skills are. Recording Engineer's are very important in the recording process, I don't care what equipment you have, a great engineer/producer can make use of a modest setup and always come out with great results! Knowledge is power, everything we are talking about are only tools to help us accomplish are tasks.
 
God

God

Creator of the Universe
ill o.g.
ProTools is not the best out there. People can use a version of Cakewalk 2.0 and a crap version of Sound Forge and do wonders.

These days, parity is almost evident with most DAWs.

The only function I'd argue is if a native based DAW is competing against a ProTools HD xxxkHz and you have a project to finish... which won't crash on you and have a manager thinking you're a fool?

So far it's HD, but it's changing. More power to native programmes.

Sincerely,
God
 
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