New Setup Ideas?...

[Loose Cannon]

Right now im usin an Enso EPS16+. I really like this, but im lookin for a new setup. This doesnt mean that i have all the money yet, or that im real serious about gettin somethin new yet, but im just tryin to get some ideas. I might be keepin the Enso, or i might be sellin it so i can help myself pay for the other equipment.


Im really lookin at the MPC60. Ive used the 2KXL a little and im pretty comfrtbl on it, so i know i could use the 60. What im lookin at in the 60 is the 12-bit sound and the swing of the sequencer. But im gettin real sick of usin 1mb of memory. I can get by with it, but im sick of it. I wanna know some things yall think i could use to control the 60 with. I dont want the S900/950, cuz i dont always want 12-bit for instruments, and i aint tryin to bite primo. What do you think of the S1000 and the 60?

Do yall have any suggestions of somethin i could control from the 60? Somethin thats probly under $250 used (i aint sayin $250, im sayin 250 is the max ill pay). Im familiar with Akai's S-Series of samplers, i just wanna see if anybody knows of anythin else i aint thinkin of.

 

[Formant024]

Get mpc1k and convert your samples to 12bit in your favorite wav editor. Done!

What do you mean by control by mpc60? Another sampler, module, drummodule, va ?

 

[Kevin A]

Personally I think 12bit is overrated. Most people cannot distinguish a hearing difference, but they associate the word grimmey with 12bit. Think about learning some mixing and mastering when it comes to sound, not 12bit sample rate. 9 times out of 10 the result you actually want will be there in the mixing and mastering not in the sample rate. For a new setup I would say get a labtop-FLstudio-Midi keyboard- and a mpd16. I really don't think you can beat flstudio if you put your brain into it.

 

[Formant024]

^^^^ It's what happens when everybody says it's the coolest thing ever and people believe it without really knowing. Case of good ol jumpin on the bandwagon, nothing new unfortunately.

As far as Im concerned any sampler will do, Im rocking a roland S750 too which goes far more grimmey than a mpc60, but hey, the rest of the hardware make the sound too, not just the mpc60 or S950. You dump a signal on your daw and it wont really sound primo, you dump a signal on a ssl and you're primo.

Thats the difference.

 

[Loose Cannon]

I forgot to say, i dont like usin computers. I wanna stick with straight hardware. Ive tried just converting sounds to 12bit, it works ok. But id rather have the 60. I love the MPC's sequencer and i already made up my mind on the 60 for my next main piece.

"...get the 1K... ...what do you mean by control by mpc60? Another sampler, module, drummodule, va ?"

I dont wanna hafto rely on a computer for some editing functions. Ive sat in front of screent to long. Im tired of usin a mouse and a keyboard. Ive used the 1k and its dope. But it aint the MPC im lookin for.

What i mean when i say "control by the 60" is i mean i wanna use the 60's sequencer and pads to trigger an external sampler. The purpose of having another sampler is so i have more then 1.5mb of memory to sample on. I dont need 16mb. I think its crazy that people use that much memory, i dont think id ever hafto use that much.

How do you like the S750? Whats it got thats unique? IF it got stolen would you get another one?

 

[Formant024]

ehm, no not directly. but the s750 is hooked to a rc100 which is a remote control and a little monitor which is hooked to the sampler. The sound of filters are stunning and it has 10 outs.

To me it just another sampler, just like my esi2k, esi4k or the mpc2kxl.

If i were you I'd get a S950 and a Z8 and hook them up to a mpc1k and start believing in editing samples from a pc. Editing on sampler itself is always a bitch and there's no product cheap enough that'll make it easier. You can look at a mv8000 or an mpc4000 to be the ones on which you dont depend on a pc ( but not really ), simply port a crt/tft and a mouse and you got yourself a pc again.

Gear is already practical, humans are not lol!

 

[x-squizet]

yo i was wondering helix if you sell you eps 16+ how much will you sell it for, but if you are looking to get a new sampler get an akia s2000, and run it through to the mpc-60 thats another idea,

 

[Loose Cannon]

If i sell my EPS16+, im gonna sell it for $300-$350.

If i do sell it, its only gonna be cuz it dont work good with the 60. But think the 60 and EPS setup might work pretty good.

MPC60 for drums and sequencing.
EPS16+ for the rest of the samples and for playin my samples on keys.

 

[gram green]

keep that eps... and add a mpc 60, 1000, or 2000... that would be dope right there.... or get an sp1200 and keep the eps.... thats what i use to run.... sp for drums percussion and real short sounds and then the keyboard for everything else... its dope to assign your sounds off the Mpc or sp to the keyboard, for instance a bass sound on the sp i would assign it to the keyboard and it was real dope for bass lines and shit, and i would never have had that range without having the keyboard.... the eps is cool to just have in my opinion.... unless your real hard up for cash dont sell it...

 

[Formant024]

You know people, and it not something to bitch about but....

A mpc has a sampler embedded... and a sequencer.

Which of those 2 features is the mpc's best feature ?



If you buy an S2000 and a MPC60 you actualy have a mpc engine and a embedded S950 and externaly the engine of a MPC2K. The S2000 is nice, but budget, I personaly dislike the sound and the interface of the S2000. It nothing special really.

I would simply buy any mpc and forget about other mpc engines to add in your setup. If you want practicle issues you should look into mpc4k for the full efficiency.

My best bet at the moment would be something like a

MPC1k/MPC3K/MPC60 + Z8.


@Helix, I think that set would be the best because in this way you can sync the sequencer from the EPS to the MPC. If a sequencer embeds a sampler it means you timing if much more rock solid that a sequencer with external sampler.

 

[benny beatz]

I dont wanna hafto rely on a computer for some editing functions. Ive sat in front of screent to long.

Screens are fuckin taking over shit... everywhere you look... thats today's world... screens... love em but hate em at teh same time...

 

[TachyonFresh]

sp 808 + asrx pro + emu mp-7+mpc2000xl

hehe, only if i had the money for all that

 

[Formant024]

^^^^ hmmm.... why ?

SP808/ASR/mp7/MPC2kXl

or what about

Roland VARiphrase rack
Ensoniq ASR rack
EMU Exxxx Ultra rack

and a mpc2xl.

At least then you're using one sequencer.

 

[Cold Truth]

sp 808 + asrx pro + emu mp-7+mpc2000xl

hehe, only if i had the money for all that

this makes ZERO sense........

helix, are you going to be using multisamples as well, (read:sound module type sounds), or are you simply going to be sampling records and the like? a z8 or emulator is seriousoverkill otherwise. those are what you use if you want sound module type libraries. if you are going sample-only, then your best bet is an mpc 1000 (the 2000xl will require the 8 outs card, so yuo will be spending roughly 1600 if you get these all brand new, or 900 or so if you buy used, somehting to consider, plus the 1000 has its own effects engine....)

but if youre heart is set on the 60, just expand your memory within that, because it makes little sense to have another sampler simply for memory.

what are you recording to? find yourself a korg d12oo or boss 1800 (i believe its called the 1800) for recording purposes.

so, be more specific with your intentions- straight samples, aor are you looking to build a multisample library as well?

 

[2_nice]

ehm, no not directly. but the s750 is hooked to a rc100 which is a remote control and a little monitor which is hooked to the sampler. The sound of filters are stunning and it has 10 outs.

what the ##+k is a rc100 i've never heard of one of them.......... man i don't like that s750 it is the only early s series sample with out the 13 pin serial out (goes to an ax-60) that was the shit !! analog everything with digital samples can use as a dco....... analog vca's vcf's vco' (can oscillate fast enough to make analog fm sounds and real stable)......... crazy powerful setup

ah roland s750 i was thinkin akai s700

 

[Formant024]

duh hehe.

But the old s series from akai, did they hook up to a AX-xx so you can use it as a controller (PG like ) and a signal path input you can cc ?