Got Weed ? Marijuana industry booming in Canada

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Marijuana industry booming in Canada


TORONTO - On the street it's called Northern Lights, Ontario Hydro, and B.C. bud. It's one of Canada's biggest agricultural exports - a potent form of marijuana cultivated in sprawling "grow houses," worth an estimated US$4 billion to $7 billion annually. Much of it is smuggled into the US.


Once hidden in farming communities and well-heeled suburbs, grow operations - indoor nurseries with high-tech lighting and temperature controls - have been thrust into the national spotlight. Thursday Canada buried four young Royal Canadian Mounted Police officers who were killed during a bust in rural Alberta March 3.

The Alberta grow house was just one of thousands across Canada. Here in Ontario, police say indoor pot operations have risen 250 percent in the past four years. And Vancouver is home to some 7,000 "grow ops" at any time, police say.


The tragedy - the deadliest incident for Canada's national police force in 120 years - has ignited debate as Canadians begin to question whether liberal attitudes toward marijuana and lenient laws enacted over the past two decades have contributed to the drug boom.


"It's really got people talking about the problem," says Marc Pinault, staff sergeant with the Ottawa Police Service's drug unit. "It's pretty clear that we produce a pile of pot, and it's really good stuff. I don't know that that's something we should be really proud of."


Drugs moving east
British Columbia has long been the hub of sophisticated, high-tech nurseries capable of producing pot with nearly 30 times the kick of what was found on the street a decade ago, according to the Drug Enforcement Agency. Sergeant Pinault says the increasing numbers of massive growing operations - once largely the preserve of Asian gangs and bikers on the West Coast - indicate the problem is moving East into provinces like Ontario and Quebec.


Tom Stamatakis, a Vancouver police officer and a member of the Canadian Professional Police Association, says criminals across the country are modeling their operations after those found in and around Vancouver.


For example, he says, grow houses are increasingly found in upscale areas of the city as criminals ply their trade behind picket fences and a facade of respectability. Inside, they're a hotbed of danger - rigged with booby traps to ward off intruders and noxious chemical compounds that pose serious health threats.


But those aren't the only perils. DEA special agent Rodney Benson of Seattle says recent busts have also netted a pile of automatic weapons and explosive devices.


"We're definitely seeing more violence," explains Mr. Benson, who recently oversaw a year long, cross- border sting called Operation Hockey Bag, in which investigators charged 22 people and seized more than 400 lbs. of marijuana, along with $3.4 million and a dozen firearms. "It's not just weapons - it's what we're seeing from the organization. They rule and intimidate from within."


RCMP investigators are still sifting through the evidence, trying to find out what led to the killing of the four officers last week. The incident began as an attempt to repossess a pickup truck but ballooned into a larger investigation after the marijuana growing operation was discovered. The gunman, Jim Roszko, killed the officers and later turned a high-powered, semiautomatic weapon on himself.


Canadian officials stress that it was an isolated act of extreme violence - and they hope to keep it that way. Many, like Mr. Stamatakis of Vancouver, say that Canadian lawmakers are too lenient in meting out penalties for those involved in growing operations contributing to the drug explosion.


"When even the outgoing prime minister [Jean Chrétien] makes a flippant comment like, 'What's the big deal about marijuana? I've probably had a few puffs myself.' That sends the wrong message to the community and the courts," Stamatakis says.


Softer laws for using, harder for selling
There has been a major push to decriminalize marijuana across the country in recent years. Canada was the first country to regulate its medicinal use, in 1999. However, while the government has recently moved to introduce softer penalties for possession, penalties for growers could get stiffer. A marijuana bill, reintroduced in November, advocates that possession of up to 15 grams would be punishable by fines of C$100 to C$150 ($85 to $125), but would no longer lead to a criminal record.


For growers, those caught with more than three plants, face up to five years in jail, or 18 months plus a C$25,000 ($20,700) fine. Those caught with more than 25 plants could face 10 years in jail, while the bill provides a maximum sentence of up to 14 years for operations with more than 50 plants.


Last week, Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan issued a warning in the wake of the shootings, telling judges that they will be forced to explain their decisions in writing if jail terms are not imposed on those who grow plants. Under Canadian laws, criminals face a maximum seven-year jail term. In practice, however, many people convicted of growing marijuana receive sentences of little more than a few months, police say.

Criminologist Patrick Parnaby says the events of last week are likely to lead to stiffer penalties. When something like narcotics is intimately tied to violence, there is going to be a powerful public backlash, says the associate professor at the University of Guelph in Ontario. "Stricter laws will make the public feel a whole lot better," he says.

But many users pushing for decriminalization couldn't disagree more. Blair Longley, leader of the federal Marijuana Party, says legalization would wipe out criminal enterprises across the country.

"They've just used this [the Alberta shootings] as an excuse to crack down and enforce outdated laws," says Mr. Longley. "In reality, liberalizing the laws would mean you would get rid of almost all the profits and, therefore, all the crime."
 

CampO

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they dumb they should legalize it but it will put many of us hard working Canadians out of work
 

O-H-TEN

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I saw on the news a couple of weeks ago that some farm in Canada got raided for growing weed. Two cops got killed in the shoot out. I thought they said it was Bridgeport or somewhere. They could have been talking about Alberta though; I only caught the ass end of the report. Anyway; I don't think that they will be able to stop it. It'll just be a little harder to grow.
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they stupid, but not as stupid as the US... but it seems to be only a few right wing facsists... i thought it was tight the prime minister said whats the big deal, i had a few puffs myself...

its so weird that cats would rather "go to war" than just legalize and end the whole problem
 

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I think the only Reason it aint Legal yet is cuz of the U.S putting to much pressure on are goverment not to legalize it .
 
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I see the problem with other drugs where you have too much and its lethal. But whats wrong with weed. I dont know why people ever started to think it was a bad thing. I dont think you should be able to drive while your stoned, but its like alcohol, you got an age limit, you got a limit to how much can be in your body while your driving. Why cant we just do that with weed?
 

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Ya good point Me personally I dont smoke much my Brother on the other hand is a heavy smoker and I can tell you that there is alot less accidents ever caused from some 1 Red Out then there is from Drunk drivers , To me weed enhanced my driving when ever i drove high I could focus better and i was more aware only thing I drove slow .

When I drove Drunk I crashed into a Tree and my moms Insurance company sued me for 20k

FUCK YOU CAA U BASTARDS
 
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Weed Is Cool,but Legalizing It Wouldnt Be Very Smart.itd Get In The Hands Of Little Kids Much Easier Ud Have People Goin To School,work Everywhere Smoked All The Time . I Know It Seems Cool But How Much Work Can Someone Get Done When They Are Blazed. On Top Of That The Goverment Would Tax The Shit Outta It .
 

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lol i think half the people here go Red Out 2 work anyways or atleast Blaze a J well at work
 

Kevin A

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Loose Cannon said:
But whats wrong with weed.
It's all about the money. American industries would be hurt if cannibus was legalized. There are over 2000 products that can be made from that 1 plant which can be harvested in about 3+ months. Big industries like paper, cigerettes, etc would be hurt to the point of out of business. Anyone with a piece of land could then take part in something that would be so big economy wise evening out the playing field, which isn't suppose to happen. The rich can only be rich if they're poor people. Yes all of the issues about this would be stupid. Just think, tv commercial for cannibus and not Cocaine?,Heroine?Acid?Exstacy etc
It's all about money. The purpose for these things is not because it's Bad, but because it is too good for man to handle and control, so he labels and outlaw it, and cut off trades with countries so countries won't be advocates of it. Let no man call what God has made unclean.

Money is what's wrong with weed. It can grow anywhere.
 

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BASTARD said:
Weed Is Cool,but Legalizing It Wouldnt Be Very Smart.itd Get In The Hands Of Little Kids Much Easier Ud Have People Goin To School,work Everywhere Smoked All The Time . I Know It Seems Cool But How Much Work Can Someone Get Done When They Are Blazed. On Top Of That The Goverment Would Tax The Shit Outta It .


I disagree look at Amsterdam crime rates there are amongst some of the lowest in europe, in fact because it was legal people actually smoked less and were responsible in their drug usage. As often people tend to be attracted to drugs because its illegal and seen as bad.
 
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JPeg said:
I disagree look at Amsterdam crime rates there are amongst some of the lowest in europe, in fact because it was legal people actually smoked less and were responsible in their drug usage. As often people tend to be attracted to drugs because its illegal and seen as bad.

exactly....people are attracted to it cos its illegal and 'cool'....i mean, look in the uk @ amount of under 16 smokers, compared with those older 18....once they reach the leagl age they cant be bothered....
 

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I duno I dont think people smoke cuz its cool to me its just an alternative to drinking and i dont think people drink cuz its cool .
Maybe people start out smoking cuz of peer pressure and think its cool cuz every one else is doin it but I highly doubt people keep smoking Weed cuz its cool

and if people dont smoke bud cuz there over 18 thats probably because they have there priorities set and dont want to be crippled by a drug Cuz some people really do lose ambition from it or the 18+ crowd probably drinks , snorts , pops pills , or for the extremist shoots shit into there veins

All I no in Canada I probably no less then 5 people who dont Blaze
 
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yeah, im talking bout youths in the uk...

and was talking bout cigarettes...
 
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