16 Bit And 24 Bit Samples

Chrono

polyphonically beyond me
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I don't think so. I have used 16bit drums and sub-melody samples and then 24 bit lead-melody samples in the same track.. sounds great :)

have you heard otherwise, as in they conflict?
 

dacalion

Hands Of FIRE!
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IMO, it's ok to use 16 and 24 together, especially in hip hop where pretty much anything goes thats presented right. Most cats wouldn't be able to tell the difference or hear the change anyway.

dac
 

Chrono

polyphonically beyond me
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IMO, it's ok to use 16 and 24 together, especially in hip hop where pretty much anything goes thats presented right. Most cats wouldn't be able to tell the difference or hear the change anyway.

dac

you know, now that you mention it the lead melody does stand out more than the rest which in this particular production gives it a nice effect. interesting
 
I think the only thing that affects the ability to use 24bit samples is the software. Some progs can handle both with no problems some cant. I personally use both at the same time. If you can get your samples in 24bit then use them, the higher the quality going into a track the higher the quality that comes out. Some samples are only available in 16 bit so if you want good quality use 24bit where possible and 16 where not. Some sounds can even be downsampled to 12bit like the SP100 or even 8bit for some lofi effects for a grimier sound.
 

Da IllFellaz

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it dont matter at the end anywayz cause its probably gon go n a 16 bit cd. so even if you using 24, its eventually gon go back down to 16. and like it was stated already, most people cant tell the difference anyways.
 

Ash Holmz

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yeah it really matter as long as the sounds themselves are quality ... u should always RECORD at 24 bit because it gives u more headroom .. but as far as using samples it doesn't matter... sometimes that 8 bit lo- fi snare is just the ticket for the track!
 

wizard

ILLIEN
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i use both! it doesn't matter to me!! i trust my ears!!!but some software cant handle the 24 bit resolution
but when i do my mix out
i use 24 bit at 44khz or 24bit at 41khz
been playing around with 24bit at 48khz
i stay away from 24bit at 96khz to clean for me!! i like it dirty!!haha
but thats only when i export the mix
but when im actually working on a beat my stuff is add
i have 16bit drumz 24 bit drumz its all mixed
the only time i pay attention to the bit or kHz resolution is when im mixing out thats when it really matters to me and u can hear a big difference between a 16bit at 41khz up to a 24 bit at 41khz!
 

eldiablo

KRACK HEAD
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dont let the tech garbage get in the way of you creating what ever it is that you want..
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
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One thing to think about is sometimes certain programs cant dither the final output very well when you bounce so you can end up with some shitty artifacts in your audio that shouldnt be there. Generally speaking though, theres nothing wrong with it given that your DAW can process that audio well enough during the bounce stage.
 

LDB

Banned
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bit rate and sample rate matter BIG TIME when you hit the studio to drop vocals. Nothing will sync up if you don't match these rates while recording.

For example: You export your project at 24 bit 48k. You go into a bigger studio and there fucking with LOGIC. Logic has to be set up for the same rates(24bit 48k). If you're collaborating with with someone and you send the the track at 24 bit 44.1k. or 16 bit 44.1. When they send you there vocals back them shits will not sync up no matter what you do. 44.1k vocals will be smaller and therefore faster!
 

God

Creator of the Universe
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You have to convert the sample into the bit rate that you're recording in.

If you have a 16 bit sample, and you're recording in 24, then you have to have it resampled for the issues listed by LDB.
 

7thangel

7th Angel of Armageddon
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it's important, a) the amount of dynamic range and b) when you bounce down to 16 bit, a dithering process should be taken and dithering 16 bit's to 16 bit's is something to be avoided. i can't say for sure but you may be making the comp and/or the program work a little more harder due to the mismatch (it already does a little more work in 24 bit's when 32 bit vst(i) are being used instead of 32 bit's (it's not a big hit or necessary). the difference between 16 and 24 is significant with 16 being more limiting, but do you, you won't gain anything upconverting if the file is already 16 bit
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
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bit rate and sample rate matter BIG TIME when you hit the studio to drop vocals. Nothing will sync up if you don't match these rates while recording.

For example: You export your project at 24 bit 48k. You go into a bigger studio and there fucking with LOGIC. Logic has to be set up for the same rates(24bit 48k). If you're collaborating with with someone and you send the the track at 24 bit 44.1k. or 16 bit 44.1. When they send you there vocals back them shits will not sync up no matter what you do. 44.1k vocals will be smaller and therefore faster!

Thats another really good to point to consider. Ive seen it happen too. That can take a shit on your whole session if your not careful.
 

LDB

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Thats another really good to point to consider. Ive seen it happen too. That can take a shit on your whole session if your not careful.


yes. I found this out the hard way while working on my current album. After me and the engineer slapped each other around for about 2hrs we took a break and then he asked about the rates then explained to me that this was the problem. (2hrs of studio time gone and my pockets $250 lighter)

Tracking your songs out for mixing is a whole other "beast". I got the format down now but it took me a couple of sessions to get the process down to a science. When you're spending money you tend to learn "fast" or go broke.
 
M

MagicBeats

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Dont think so.

But a lot of people convert their samples to 24 bit even if the source of that sample is 16 bit, that dont work. the sound quality wont get better. If the source is 16 bit you can leave it that way
 
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