Beat Fight #360

Beat Fights! - Fight #360
Jul 31, 2025

P.A.T.
"Ronin"
 Phoenix, Arizona
Points:97  Rank:7
MicroDotCotton
"Torse Hankiliser"
 Bristol, United Kingdom
Points:10  Rank:89

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 807
Hey, PAT,

after your chat message about the outcome, I'd thought i'd swing by and drop my views on the beats (in particular on why MicroDot's beat may have won)

I can understand why you may feel shortchanged - hey many of us do here anytime we lose a battle (many times very justified too!!! at least I'm sure we all think)

"Ronin"
You have a really cool beat here, not sure how much is composed/sampled, but going to just assume as compsoed; really cool beat musically, captures that ninja, samurai far east vibes well, and has beautiful switch ups. Musically this is a really cool beat, and sounds like good skill went into this compositionally.

"Torse Hankiliser"
A relatively 'simple' beat in appearance, but has a fucking shit tonne of character and emotion in the aesthetics of the beat.


$ My opinion on why MicroDotCotton's beat may have won;
This beat has a tonne of fucking character and emotion with its gritty grainy texture, which couples well with its very droney sound. Me personally, I listen to this beat and I hear a really gritty grimey agressive rapper on this. (can't pull out any underground names) but I can imagine Busta Rhymes on this, with a real raw, distressed vocal take. Would be an absolutely fucking fierce record.
Comparatively, whilst your beat has a fairly clear/clean mix, I think the mix lacks a certain boldness - musically the beat has a lot of emotion, especially that Erhu/bowed instrument; but whilst musically it carries emotion, I think the mix could have done more to really match and bring out that emotion.

It's this emotion/aesthetic which I think potentially led to Microdot's beat winning.

Really cool beat, I hope this helps give any clarity or perhaps even inspires thought for your next beats etc.

Great beats @ both

Love
 

P.A.T.

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 156
Hey, PAT,

after your chat message about the outcome, I'd thought i'd swing by and drop my views on the beats (in particular on why MicroDot's beat may have won)

I can understand why you may feel shortchanged - hey many of us do here anytime we lose a battle (many times very justified too!!! at least I'm sure we all think)

"Ronin"
You have a really cool beat here, not sure how much is composed/sampled, but going to just assume as compsoed; really cool beat musically, captures that ninja, samurai far east vibes well, and has beautiful switch ups. Musically this is a really cool beat, and sounds like good skill went into this compositionally.

"Torse Hankiliser"
A relatively 'simple' beat in appearance, but has a fucking shit tonne of character and emotion in the aesthetics of the beat.


$ My opinion on why MicroDotCotton's beat may have won;
This beat has a tonne of fucking character and emotion with its gritty grainy texture, which couples well with its very droney sound. Me personally, I listen to this beat and I hear a really gritty grimey agressive rapper on this. (can't pull out any underground names) but I can imagine Busta Rhymes on this, with a real raw, distressed vocal take. Would be an absolutely fucking fierce record.
Comparatively, whilst your beat has a fairly clear/clean mix, I think the mix lacks a certain boldness - musically the beat has a lot of emotion, especially that Erhu/bowed instrument; but whilst musically it carries emotion, I think the mix could have done more to really match and bring out that emotion.

It's this emotion/aesthetic which I think potentially led to Microdot's beat winning.

Really cool beat, I hope this helps give any clarity or perhaps even inspires thought for your next beats etc.

Great beats @ both

Love
Thank you for your thoughts on the matter. I really do appreciate it! I'm just basically a hot-head that says shit before I've had the chance to chill for a minute. Usually I regret it but I do not when it comes to this community! I feel we all put massive time and effort into our music and can all relate! Plus, I hope by now everyone knows I'm just fuckin' around with the chat stuff! Sometimes it's hard to tell with only typed words to go off of! I know exactly why I lost... @MicroDotCotton got more votes than me and that makes him the winner. It's all love here and I can let things go and move on pretty quickly nowadays!!!! On to the next. You are all fucking awesome and I enjoy it all! Thanks!!!
 
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